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⌈ Secret Post #3442 ⌋

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

My personal opinion is RPF is virtual rape, you are using a real person for sex without their consent. But that's not a popular opinion either.

[(Anonymous)]

OP

That is what the people on the comm were saying. That it was sexual harassment by involving people in sex without their consent. So you would be popular with them.

How do you feel about generic fantasies? People often fantasize about a celebrity while having sex with their SO or while masturbating. Is this also virtual rape by your standards? I couldn't get an answer to this from the other people, and I'm curious.

[(Anonymous)]

My thoughts aren't fully formed on this matter but fantasizing to yourself or with your partner isn't something the "RP" is going to come across by mistake and have to deal with. The act of putting it out there where that person could find it is what kind of bugs me. I imagine many celebs nowdays are used to it but I always wonder if I found a fic describing my genitalia and situations I'd be uncomfortable with written by an acquaintance I think I'd be upset. Like I said, I've not thought in depth about this to be honest.

[(Anonymous)]

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I'd be upset if it were written by an acquaintance. I don't know that I would be upset if it were written by someone that didn't know me at all. Because they obviously wouldn't really be describing me, if that made sense? It might as well be fanfic about the character I acted on whatever show or movie I was part of. I haven't read RPF at all, but I would think that most of it would be more fantasy than reality. Not that people don't take it too far. The thing someone linked about the One Direction baby "conspiracy" was way over the line. As it was definitely about reality rather than fantasy. I don't know if I'm making sense. And maybe I'm wrong, as I don't read it. It's just the impression I got from what little I've seen while looking for other things. (And I also liked when it was on locked LJ communities, so that the odds of the people involved ever coming across it were slim to none. At least that is how it was mostly done in the fandoms I was in.)

[(Anonymous)]

I see your points. Locked communities make me feel better about it. And I suppose, unless the writers know the celebs personally it's all AU fic anyways.

[(Anonymous)]

According to some authors, using other people's fictional characters for your own stories is like kidnapping children and selling them into sex slavery.

[(Anonymous)]

You don't need to coin the phrase "virtual rape". We've had a word for this problem since 1948.

Just use the word "thoughtcrime".

[(Anonymous)]

I imagine you spent quite a bit of time congratulating yourself about this comment.

Used it wrong, time to stop patting yourself.

[(Anonymous)]

Sorry, I can't take the phrase "virtual rape" seriously. It makes me think of the outrage over sex in Mass Effect.

[(Anonymous)]

What would be a better term? I know that young girls have been hounded into suicide by things they read online about themselves. It was very real to them but it was all "virtual." Trying to figure out how to phrase things in this internet day and age can be difficult.

[(Anonymous)]

That situation is called "bullying" and/or "harassment". Writing things about public figures is not at all the same. (I'm not into RPF, but I think gossip magazines and tinhats are far worse offenders than fic writers who say what they write is, you know, fiction.)

[(Anonymous)]

lol by this logic fantasizing about someone is raping them

[(Anonymous)]

Instead of virtual rape, why don't you call it virtual Nazism or virtual Hitler or something?

I mean either you're using rape a generic 'something horrible that has nothing to do with this' or you're a terrible person who really believes a fictional story about someone's personal persona is exactly the same as attacking them and shoving something inside them and leaving them injured and fucked up.

Please, read the Sanford rape victim's letter and tell me how what she went through is exactly like someone writing a fictional story.

[(Anonymous)]

+1

[(Anonymous)]

I can see a case for sexual harassment (especially if you intentionally show your RPF to the people involved) but I can't accept "virtual rape" as a thing, sorry.