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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2016-06-08 05:24 pm

[ SECRET POST #3444 ]


⌈ Secret Post #3444 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2016-06-09 12:14 am (UTC)(link)
I remember being in fandom post GoF, after the one exchange between Flelur and Bill was her throwing a look his way at the Third Task (no hint of him even knowing of her existence) and people were writing fic about them getting married and shit and swearing they'd absolutely be a canon thing. I was all "wtf worst set up ever if that's true". And sure enough after two books of virtually no mention whatsoever let alone groundwork, they were getting married. Of course it came out of literally nowhere.

People were so proud of being able to correctly guess the future canon pairings based on "subtle cues" in the earlier books, then were somehow shocked that 99% of those pairings flatlined and were DOA for much of the audience. JKR wrote them the way she did most of her plot twists, but you can't Chekov's gun a canon ship, well-written romance needs actual groundwork and buildup.
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[personal profile] nonnymouscawitz 2016-06-09 12:19 am (UTC)(link)
It was easy to predict pairings because JKR tended to limit interaction between boys and girls to those who were going to hook up, unless it was plot relevant. So any background mention was pretty much a guarantee. The only ship that I think was pretty clear from the beginning was Ron/Hermione, and even that was awkwardly handled. Which would be fine, these are not romance books, but when every single relationship is handled badly, including the main characters, it colors your experience.

(Anonymous) 2016-06-09 12:56 am (UTC)(link)
True, I'm still convinced the main reason the Ron/Hermione vs Harry/Hermione wars got so bad was a symptom of how male-centric the books can be -- it's not that people couldn't see R/Hr coming, it's that people expect romance to have build-up, especially the main character's, and Hermione was the only girl his age Harry had anything remotely resembling the necessary build-up with. If Harry being bisexual had been a viable option to expect it literally wouldn't have been an issue: with Ron/Hermione being a foregone conclusion there would have been (in order of likelihood) Fred, George, Neville and Draco to guess between, because those are all relationships with foundation that Harry had throughout the books.
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[personal profile] nonnymouscawitz 2016-06-09 01:26 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, I definitely get where Harry/Hermione was coming from, but I'd grown up on 'they bicker because they like each other' (I blame Hey Arnold) so it never occurred to me that she might end up with Harry.