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⌈ Secret Post #3444 ⌋

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Comments

[nonnymouscawitz]

Harry Potter books are shit at romance, news at eleven.

Seriously, as much as I ship all the canon pairings, there is nothing those books did WORSE than romance. 90% of every pairing happened off screen, only to be either vaguely referenced or thrown at you from nowhere later. (Looking at you, single mention of Fleur and Bill knowing each other before romance happened, and entirety of Tonks/Remus relationship) I have trouble reading HP fic too, because even though I like and ship the characters, there's nothing in the books that really sold me on it enough for me to seek it out.

[(Anonymous)]

Tonks/Remus was so out of left field for me. I can't even like it because it was totally WTF for me. And then Harry thinking she was in love with her cousin Sirius really threw me for a loop. I can accept Bill/Fleur because they are not close to Harry and I can see Harry not noticing their relationship at all since he wasn't there for their meeting or dating period. Whereas he spends a great deal of time with both Remus and Tonks. I think there would have been hints in the 5th book, like maybe Tonks flirting with Remus and him reacting to it or something.

I'm the opposite though because her poorly done attempts at romance made me want to read fics either to a)fix the issues (Ron/Hermione) or b) explain how the two characters got together (Fleur/Bill). If I'm satisfied with how canon does it I never look for fics.

[(Anonymous)]

I think there would have been hints in the 5th book, like maybe Tonks flirting with Remus and him reacting to it or something.

Actually, there were, or at least I thought so. In just about every other scene we see Remus in, Tonks is there. But she definitely went from "maybe there's something" to them being married with a kid. That was a leap, even though I loved them in fanon.

[nonnymouscawitz]

I actually liked Tonks/Remus, but holy hell was there no build up for that whatsoever. I get that we have a first person limited perspective, but that just makes things look bizarre.

I definitely hunt down fic if I'm satisfied, because if I'm satisfied I want MOOOOREEEE.

[(Anonymous)]

I remember being in fandom post GoF, after the one exchange between Flelur and Bill was her throwing a look his way at the Third Task (no hint of him even knowing of her existence) and people were writing fic about them getting married and shit and swearing they'd absolutely be a canon thing. I was all "wtf worst set up ever if that's true". And sure enough after two books of virtually no mention whatsoever let alone groundwork, they were getting married. Of course it came out of literally nowhere.

People were so proud of being able to correctly guess the future canon pairings based on "subtle cues" in the earlier books, then were somehow shocked that 99% of those pairings flatlined and were DOA for much of the audience. JKR wrote them the way she did most of her plot twists, but you can't Chekov's gun a canon ship, well-written romance needs actual groundwork and buildup.

[nonnymouscawitz]

It was easy to predict pairings because JKR tended to limit interaction between boys and girls to those who were going to hook up, unless it was plot relevant. So any background mention was pretty much a guarantee. The only ship that I think was pretty clear from the beginning was Ron/Hermione, and even that was awkwardly handled. Which would be fine, these are not romance books, but when every single relationship is handled badly, including the main characters, it colors your experience.

[(Anonymous)]

True, I'm still convinced the main reason the Ron/Hermione vs Harry/Hermione wars got so bad was a symptom of how male-centric the books can be -- it's not that people couldn't see R/Hr coming, it's that people expect romance to have build-up, especially the main character's, and Hermione was the only girl his age Harry had anything remotely resembling the necessary build-up with. If Harry being bisexual had been a viable option to expect it literally wouldn't have been an issue: with Ron/Hermione being a foregone conclusion there would have been (in order of likelihood) Fred, George, Neville and Draco to guess between, because those are all relationships with foundation that Harry had throughout the books.

[nonnymouscawitz]

Yeah, I definitely get where Harry/Hermione was coming from, but I'd grown up on 'they bicker because they like each other' (I blame Hey Arnold) so it never occurred to me that she might end up with Harry.