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⌈ Secret Post #3447 ⌋

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Comments

[iceyred]

I can imagine all sorts of horrible things, but that doesn't mean they have any basis in reality.

My hometown has a large population of Filipinos. We had one idiot transfer in high school. He went "Are they from Philedelphia?" and got beat up after class, and there was some friction between them and the blacks in middle school, but I never saw anything other than that. The only time I heard somebody mention the 'eating dogs' stereotype, it was from a Filipino friend.

I don't have a television so I don't see a lot of the bleed and lead stories. I don't remember there being a lot of bleed-and-lead stories featuring Asians though. They make up less than 1 percent of the country's prison population. They have the highest percentage of college graduates out of all the races, so they're clearly not being kept out of higher education opportunities. Source: http://www.asian-nation.org/14-statistics.shtml

I read the news, but I don't remember any horror stories featuring Asians.

[(Anonymous)]

Or perhaps they didn't talk about the racism they experienced because they knew you'd be as unsympathetic as you've appeared in this thread.

[iceyred]

How is expressing what I haven't seen, and giving a couple of facts (and including a source) unsympathetic.

Someone asking you to explain your statements isn't a lack of sympathy.

Also, I went to school with these kids, sometimes for years. If someone was screaming slurs in class, I would have heard it.

[(Anonymous)]

DA

I recently read this article that provides a simple take on a certain manifestation of discrimination that Asian Americans face: http://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2016/06/professional-burdens-model-minority-asian-americans/485492/

And as an Asian kid who survived the schoolyard, I recall no outright slurs but quite a few instances where my "funny" name became the subject of mockery. A few years ago (maybe?) there was a thread on here about the way people made fun of Shyamalan's name and I remember a few other people sharing similar experiences in the comments.

So you know... stuff like that.

[iceyred]

That's a good point about the names. The Filipino kids I knew had last names like Flores and Tomas, easy to pronounce. I can see how a name that's harder to pronounce would draw ugly attention.

The article's interesting, and provides an answer to the question about why the problems facing Asian-Americans face: y'all just don't talk about it as much. Going to school, 'thriving economically', and having high incomes are pretty normal, so Asians fade into the background and their problems fade with them.

That was interesting. Thanks for the answer.

[(Anonymous)]

It's hard to talk about it when someone's first reaction is to ask for examples, as if racism against Asians is so difficult to believe that they need citations.

[iceyred]

Racism against Asians isn't hard to believe, but it's not obvious what it looks like. When racism is reported and discussed, Asians aren't listed as dealing with the myriad of problems other races suffer from. I no longer live in an area with a large Asian population, and when I did their problems never popped up in the news or in casual discussion. How am I suppose to magically know how the Japanese are treated in America?

Refusing to explain the problem isn't really helpful.

[(Anonymous)]

Christ... anyone with a hard to pronounce name will get mocked regardless of race. My Czech name was mocked and I am white. Very white.

[(Anonymous)]

And that is xenophobia, also a problem. With Asian names it's a mixture of that and racism.

[(Anonymous)]

DA

While I am not whiter than sour cream ( I tend vaguely towards copper), I get what you mean.
My name is misspelled by everyone who doesn't hear me spell it out for them. My background includes currently irrelevant white petty nobility from Europe.

No oddly named individual is immune.

[(Anonymous)]

"If someone was screaming slurs in class, I would have heard it."

I've also never in my real life heard a white person call a black person a nigger out loud. I'm not going to be like "since I didn't hear it, I don't think it happens" though. If a black person told me someone had called them one, I'd believe them, you know? Horrible assholes exist and they may not be the majority or be out and proud about it in classrooms and public areas but they're out there and it's naive to think they aren't.

[iceyred]

You're taking what I said metaphorically. I meant it literally. I'm not saying it doesn't happen, I'm saying it didn't happen in that situation.

[diet_poison]

I've heard it. Not very often, but I've heard it, and I've also heard a direct story from a friend about it happening in front of him at his job.

It's rare, but it happens.

People suck.

[(Anonymous)]

"...the blacks"


Yikes

[(Anonymous)]

I like how she never replied to this.

[(Anonymous)]

she's republican, she probably doesn't even know that shit is racist

[(Anonymous)]

Lucky you. I don't really like getting involved in debates where the other person is like, "prove to me that Asians have problems with racism" because they're so depressing. I guess you could say that one of the racism related issues is that you're not the first person to obliquely suggest that racism isn't a thing that happens to Asians since they personally have not witnessed it. You won't be the last, either.

I don't know if you'll accept my assurance that yes, racism against Asians is still a thing that happens every day, even if you have somehow missed any examples of it. But you have it. I wish I didn't have to "prove" this to anyone, but I guess it's nice for you (and them) that you live someplace where you're protected from all of that ugliness.

[iceyred]

I'm not denying that Asians deal with racism. I'm seriously questioning what that looks like because I haven't seen any examples of it. Shockingly, if someone doesn't witness something and it isn't discussed in the media, they probably don't know too much about it. Somebody upthread dropped a link about why Asian-American grievances aren't better known and discussed.

Keep playing pretend that I'm some evil racist out to deny your problems. It doesn't bother me in the slightest.