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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2016-06-11 03:25 pm

[ SECRET POST #3447 ]


⌈ Secret Post #3447 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2016-06-12 06:29 pm (UTC)(link)
I am of the firm belief that Social Justice itself is a good thing, AS LONG AS IT STAYS REAL WORLD ORIENTED. The minute it crosses over into fandom it stops being social justice and starts being bullying.

I mean I like being able to see serious takes on the Sanford rape case and people outraged, and people very intelligently going through why referring to it as '20 minutes of action' is a manipulative thing. And lawyers talking about how judges empathize with the people involved, so that's why a former sports coach now judge is going to feel a lot sorrier for a student athlete than, say, a poor black girl who steals a candybar from a store.

Then you get into fandom and it's people taking the buzzwords and using them to bully everyone. "My incest ship is healthy and awesome and just fiction, YOUR incest ship is abusive and problematic and hurtful to survivors."

"If Sherlock is taking it up the butt from Watson it's fine, if Watson takes it up the butt from Sherlock it's PEDOPHILLIA and CHILD ABUSE and GROOMING and RACISM and wrong! And anyone who tried to defend them is DEFENDING all those awful things!"

"If you don't ship Stormpilot you're RACIST! If you don't ship JediStorm you're MISOGYNISTIC! If you don't ship HanLeia you're AGEIST! If you like Kylo you're A RAPIST"

And the main difference, I think, is that Real World SJW has a plan.
1. Notice injustice
2. Point out injustice
3. Propose ways to help injustice

The Fandom SJW just wants to scream
1. Notice injustice
2. Point out injustice
3. ?????
4. Feel superior.

I have seen dozens of "If you don't ship X you're a racist" posts go by, and not one single one has ever proposed anything helpful. Have X ship weeks! Promote fanart! Have "Go leave a nice comment on three X ship fics specifically saying what you liked about them!" events. Make positivity posts and promote them. Defend shippers from hate. I can think of all those off the top of my head, but those are work. It's much easier to scream.