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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2016-06-12 03:33 pm

[ SECRET POST #3448 ]


⌈ Secret Post #3448 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2016-06-12 10:34 pm (UTC)(link)
as someone who is into blmatsu (the fandom name for shipping the brothers), all i ever fucking ask of those who are neutral to the shipping is to be like "i dont like it but whatever". that's literally it. i get that the incest survivors don't want to see it but they could do this: not seek it out. xkit has a blacklist for a reason. there are multiple extensions on chrome and firefox to prevent them from seeing it.

i've lost 4 friends because of this anti shit and it's annoying.

though, it does make it interesting to note there's a lot of adults shipping the brothers and its the younger crowd who's playing the moral police.

(Anonymous) 2016-06-12 11:30 pm (UTC)(link)
I think it's a generation gap thing. Some people are old enough to remember when "You're free to do your own thing" was a principle people wanted to stand by, and some people grew up in a world where literally the only thing they heard as children was PRINCIPLES ARE FOR THE WEAK WE MUST DO ANYTHING TO STOP THE BAD PEOPLE THEY'RE INHUMAN MONSTERS

(Anonymous) 2016-06-13 02:30 am (UTC)(link)
you're right. it is a generational gap issue.

(Anonymous) 2016-06-13 06:16 am (UTC)(link)
Yes, but as anon said, it's the younger fans who are being shits about incest fic, not the older fans who grew up during the cold war.

Or: the "burn the witch" mindset has always been there. You can't pin this on SJ or...whatever your current bogeyman is.

(Anonymous) 2016-06-13 03:59 pm (UTC)(link)
I think they're saying fans who grew up during the Bush era war "It doesn't MATTER if they had weapons of mass destruction or not, we can say they did because they're Bad People and whatever it takes to get the public on our side justifies getting rid of the Bad People, even if we have to lie and make up stuff about them."

Which sounds really familiar to the current youngest fans who grew up with that rhetoric as common. As opposed to the fans who grew up on the tail of Vietnam question authority individual rights are important trying to go in and force bad people to think like you is a terrible terrible mistake rhetoric.

(Anonymous) 2016-06-13 09:54 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, but my point is, "they're Bad People because I say so, and we should stop them because they're Bad People" has always been there. It was definitely a factor even in the trailing end of the post-Vietnam era, it was just pointed at a different target. (Except during Desert Storm, when it was pointed at the same target it was during Bush Jr.'s years. I remember fallout drills making a resurgence because everyone was terrified that there were going to be nukes then, even though there was no evidence to that end, and the town I lived in had a lot of manufacturing plants that had incidental government ties.)

Various social movements disagree with the notion, and some of them have gained a lot of traction and widespread awareness, but the 70s/80s/90s still had a lot of us vs them mentality going.