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[ SECRET POST #447 ]

⌈ Secret Post #447 ⌋

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I'm sorry if I made you feel like that.

Please understand that I didn't just mention it out of the blue. I didn't just go "And OMG I'm writing a fanfic, rite, where Mohinder and Sylar have lots of really hawt smex". I wouldn't dream of doing that. I wouldn't have thought of mentioning it at all until it just seemed to come up naturally in conversation.

He had asked me what I wanted to do when I left uni. I said that I would actually love to write for television, but that I knew it was a really competitive job and didn't hold out much hope of getting into it. I said I did writing in my spare time, and then said, "Like, you know how Sendhil and Zachary suggested a buddy comedy for the two of them, 'Sylinder the Sitcom'? I had a go at writing one, just for fun."

That was it. That was all I said. Conversation continued without a break, it didn't seem to bother him at all. Maybe it was silly to say it, but it didn't seem strange or inappropriate at the time, and he didn't seem to care. Sendhil wasn't even listening to us at that point.

I don't think I made Heroes fans look bad. I didn't spend the entire night taking photos or say anything that could be construed as embarrassing. I just enjoyed their conversation and acted normally. I even let myself think that I might have presented a good example of a fan, and they might have had a good time that evening. They were really friendly to me all the way through the dinner, and still so the next day, when they could have gone back to professional courtesy.

I hope this might go some way to reassuring you that they don't now think all Heroes fans are terrifying stalkers.

I suspected that it was not quite as bad in context as your account made it sound, but it does not change my opinion all that much... I wish fans like you could actually go one day without having to bring up their fanfiction to the actors or creators.

Didn't you also ask Sendhil about Mylar on the same convention during the question round? (Which did not even have any informative value because we already know from earlier interviews with him and with Zach that yes, they know about it, and expecting them to say more on the topic is kind of sick.)
Why bring it up again? Fanfiction is not that important, really. It's pretty masturbatory, and sometimes I get the impression fans care about their own fanfic more than about the show and the guys and girls behind it. And then I do feel awfully misrepresented by people like you.

And then I do feel awfully misrepresented by people like you.

I'm just chiming in to say that she's under no obligation to represent you.

Not the OP, but... what do you think sticks more to an actor's mind, the 99 perfectly pleasant and normal fans or the one batshit insane retarded bitch who tries to get him to hump his co-star?

What is your point here? That you think the sitcom writer is the batshit insane bitch who's scaring away the actors? She made an off-hand comment about taking a shot writing a SITCOM based on an idea that two actors joked about, and never mentioned anything about hoyay, and certainly not RPS. If that's not what you're saying, then what the hell does it have to do with anything?

Aren't we talking about "Sylindher the Sitcom"? I think the connection to hoyay is in the title.

BUDDY COMEDY OH MY GOD.

No, I did not mean the word "sitcom". Want another try?

Lol, what? I meant it's a BUDDY COMEDY, not a PORN. When ZQ called it Sylinder, he either wasn't thinking in a hoyay sense or he was and he didn't care. The premise that they joked about was buddy comedy. That was it. Not gay life partners.

My point was that the actors are probably well aware of the way that "Sylindher" and "Mylar" (and other pairing names) are commonly used. Probably just in a vague "they pretend your characters are a gay couple" kind of way, but nevertheless, I assume they know enough about it.

So when they hear the word, from a fan, they might simply assume she is referring to hoyay, even if she isn't.

They joke about it, yeah. And I hope that they won't one day stop joking about it when they realize that to many people, it's more than a joke.

I have no idea what your point is.

The point is that it does not matter that you know what genre and rating the fic has. Mention the word "Sylindher" and you will have people who think you mean gay porn.

Still too hard to understand?

THEY MADE THE NAME THEMSELVES WHEN JOKING ABOUT A NON-GAY SITCOM IDEA.

The term "Sylindher" existed well before they mentioned it, and it has had a hoyay connotation. This is without a doubt they context they learned it from. They are aware of this meaning of the word, and might associate it when they hear it.

Whatever association the name might have, in the context of Sylinder: The Sitcom, it is purely comedic to them. If it isn't, then they know it's gay and do not care. She mentioned only the SITCOM part of it, for a second, as part of a larger discussion on writing.

LYNCH.

Sorry. Didn't know you could read their minds.

I can't read their minds, and I would be very worried that they might misunderstand my use of the word Sylindher.

And... she also asked a Mylar question during the Q&A, didn't she? So on a three days event, bringing fanfiction up twice when talking directly to the actors...? Also taking into account that before the convention, she was considering giving parts of her fanfic to Sendhil?
Excuse me if I find that a little borderline.

I thought we were talking about the dinner, not the Q&A. I'm not getting into an argument about something else. As for the reading minds, can you really imagine a scenario where they associate Sylinder with gay character-sex, are uncomfortable with it, but also joke about it in interviews? Yeah, call me Matt Parkman, for I read their minds.

Besides, ZQ looked like he thinking up a name for the sitcom on the spot, not taking a ship name from fandom.

Whatever, I'm bored. Sorry for being bitchy, but, hey, I guess I'm a bitch.

Joking about it briefly themselves and actually *discussing* it with fans are two very, very different things.
Just a thought.

I know you guys are coming in to defend a friend here (since yeah, I do know who secret #29 is about), but really, Zachary Quinto knows that Sylinder and Mylar are shipping terms, meaning a romantic and/or sexual relationship between Mohinder and Sylar. The Merrillwood interview and the Heroes panel at ComicCon pretty much cements this as fact. You can agree or disagree with the secret itself, but I really think you're going out on a limb here to claim that he doesn't know and doesn't use it in that sense and using that as a defense.

Also, I don't think either of them mind that people enjoy imagining Sylar and Mohinder having sex. They laughed about it when asked, yes. That's not what the secret is about, either. The secret is about some fans constantly bringing it to their attention and how that makes some of us (I dare say the majority of us, but what do I know) feel uncomfortable. I love Mylar, you know this, but think about it: if you were doing what you felt was a good, solid job on a TV show, would you want people to constantly only talk about their fantasy sex lives based on your work? Really?

ETA: I hate saying things like this, but I think Heroes fandom is young and apparently grew out of a different culture than slash fandoms used to. There are unspoken rules and lines in fandom. It might seem like a joke, but "rule number one of fandom is no one talks about fandom" is not actually a joke.

Edited 2008-03-28 07:30 (UTC)

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