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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2016-06-23 06:22 pm

[ SECRET POST #3459 ]


⌈ Secret Post #3459 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

01.
[Zombies Run, Portal]



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02.
[Uncharted 4, Sam Drake and Rafe Adler]


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03.
[Chicago Med]


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04.
[Overwatch]


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05.
[Ramsay Snow/Bolton from A Game of Thrones]


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06.
[A Game of Thrones]


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07.
[Forgotten Realms, Drizzt Do'Urden]


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08.
[Casper Crump, Legends of Tomorrow]


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09.
[Blindspot]


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10.
[good mythical morning]


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11.
[Dominic Purcell]









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Re: Brexit

(Anonymous) 2016-06-24 12:01 am (UTC)(link)
It's likely to. If you think it's unlikely to, that's a part of your argument you shouldn't just skip over.

Re: Brexit

(Anonymous) 2016-06-24 12:05 am (UTC)(link)
I didn't say it was likely or unlikely. I don't know, and no one else does, either. I think it's telling that the wealthy elite and the political establishment are the most concerned about the economic ramifications. But I guess poor white people are just too dumb to know better? After all, they're only damning themselves, right? They're the ones who will suffer most if there is "massive economic damage." But I think they feel like cornered animals, and I think it's a shame the left no longer cares about them. I suspect the same thing is going to propel Trump to the presidency here.

Re: Brexit

(Anonymous) 2016-06-24 01:52 pm (UTC)(link)
Dude, why would they feel like cornered animals? If they fall for that shit, they're mushrooms--the whole "kept in the dark on a diet of bullshit" thing. It's not so much that poor white people have it worse (okay, they do, but that's generally the result of money coming out of their paychecks if they get 'em and social services whether they do or not and going to the rich/offshoring/financial markets).

But they don't have it worse than poor immigrants, from southern Europe or anywhere much else. They see being on equal footing with poor immigrants as insulting; they should at least have it better than those people with their stinky food and brown skin and weird lingo, even if they can't aspire to be rich. If they kicked all "those" people out, there would be more health care and better schooling to go around, right? It's not like a lot of NHS doctors are immigrants or anything. It's not like poor brown people ever contributed anything to the UK economy, right?

On the American side, I'm a poor white person clinging to the middle class with my fingernails and teeth (up until two years ago my income put me solidly at working poor; I have the same job and pay now but with healthcare benefits and a pension) and I don't get why so many poor white people vote against their own interests, because I grew up in a union household where we knew the only thing keeping us from dire poverty was dad's union job.

I could go to the doctor and the dentist growing up; a lot of my friends had shit access to healthcare and their parents couldn't afford to take time off if my friends or they got sick. Poor people voting conservative as though they'll magically get rich for doing so creep me out. It's not magic; the rich aren't going to reward you voting for them with free money; that's why they're fucking rich!

They keep everything they get their hands on and don't like to share, and liberal policy is at least supposed to Robin Hood some of their money into the hands (or, really, mouths and minds and bodies because food stamps and cheap(er) education and cheap(er) healthcare benefit poor white people too!) of people who don't have much to get by with. It's not like the UK or the US programs only benefit poor immigrants, they benefit poor white citizens, too, in fact at least in the US they benefit citizens more, because many illegal immigrants contribute taxes towards social programs that they can't actually access.

Re: Brexit

(Anonymous) 2016-06-24 04:38 pm (UTC)(link)
So basically, yes, poor white people are too dumb to know better. You sounds like you really hate them.

Re: Brexit

(Anonymous) 2016-06-24 10:56 pm (UTC)(link)
No, I don't hate my family and childhood friends--or myself; I'm by no means well off, even now that I don't have to dealwith medical emergencies with OTC meds, hope, and icepacks. I just find it exasperating that lots of them (mainly from my parents' generation on up) believe that conservative party leadership has no intention of doing away with their benefits, only the benefits of those undeserving people over there, and if their government benefits are cut, it's the fault of some other benefits-recieving group rather than the government responsible for doling them out. In other ways my friends run the gamut, some of them are smarter than me.