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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2008-03-30 06:06 pm

[ SECRET POST #450 ]


⌈ Secret Post #450 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 16 pages, 395 secrets from Secret Submission Post #065.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 1 - broken links ], [ 1 2 3 4 - not!secrets ], [ 1 2 - not!fandom ], [ 1 2 3 4 - too big ], [ 1 - repeat ], [ 1 ] argument has been going on forever.
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

26 OP

(Anonymous) 2008-03-31 02:13 am (UTC)(link)
Dahlia did do many vicious things, and I accept that she did more evil than Kristoph, given her higher death-count, but Kristoph did quite a bit as well.. He killed two men and attempted to poison a child, manipulated his brother, and ruined Phoenix's career. I think it's easier to remember how awful Dahlia was because the game spent so much time on her story -- three of the five cases revolved heavily around her. Kristoph gets two, and the development is spent more on the Gramarye family than Kristoph himself.

But there's also more reason to pity Dahlia. We're given the bare-bones story that Dahlia was unloved by either of her parents, and given various bits of information, it's fairly easy to conclude her father was an asshole. Every murder she committed was done to cover up her act of revenge against Hawthorne -- the kidnapping. In this she parallels Kristoph; every murder he commits is also a coverup. But Kristoph is given no real backstory. We are left to assume his only motivation is his own evil nature.

They're incredibly similar, but Dahlia gets the nod from me.

(Also, the lack of epicness in 4-4 is the result of bad writing. The Mason System segment really takes the wind out of the sails.)

Re: 26 OP

(Anonymous) 2008-03-31 02:23 am (UTC)(link)
WORD. With Dahlia, we have actual backstory. With Kristoph, it's more like the writers had a good idea for a villian that connects to everyone (Phoenix's friend, Apollo's mentor, Klavier's brother, Trucy's father's killer, etc.) but failed to present him in such a way that gives some insight as to why he did what he did.

If there was a little something more to Kristoph's character, like he had more at stake with the Gramarye case, then he would be a more well-rounded character. But since we're given no such backstory or motive, all we have to go on is that he's psycho.

(Oh, God. Don't even get me started on the Mason System. I want to know whose idea it was to reveal EVERY SINGLE THING in it, so there would be no twists whatsoever in the final trial)

Re: 26 OP

[identity profile] sabbato.livejournal.com 2008-03-31 02:29 am (UTC)(link)
I can agree with this. I like Kristoph as a character but he was missing something. I'll admit that I think it was the motive. I do like to come up with my own twisted reason as to why Kristoph is the way he is. Maybe it'll be revealed in GS5 (unless we go back to Phoenix). Who knows? I mean we all saw the Psychlocks he had...he's defiantly hiding something.

(I liked the Mason System, to be honest. I think introducing that was pretty interesting but I do like having to just go into court and present evidence myself.)