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⌈ Secret Post #3471 ⌋

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[Brooklyn Nine-Nine]

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[1931: Scheherazade at the Library of Pergamum]

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[outlander, ontd-sassenach]

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(Voltron: Legendary Defender)

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The characterization in the Hobbit and LOTR movies drives me batty.

For petty complaints, the dwarves in the Hobbit don't look like dwarves. Especially as they are Longbeards so they should all have long beards. Kili should be blond. Faramir and Boromir should have black hair. Aragorn's crown should look Egyptian. The landscape is all wrong.

I could go on...

What about the landscape was wrong? Nothing really stuck out to me as off when it came to the landscape in those movies IIRC.

It looked too new, for a start. LOTR is during the third age of the sun, and there were ages of the trees and lamps before that. Everything is supposed to look old. That is one of the big running themes of the series: things get worse as time goes on. And especially the elvish cities because many the elves are fading or leaving and their cities are the oldest.

In addition to the above, the landscape looked too empty. When the Fellowship is making it's way south, they should be tripping over the ruins of past settlements. People have lived in Arnor, Gondor, and Rohan for longer than those kingdoms have existed. There have been a lot of battles and wars fought in those areas that drove people out but the remains of cities and towns and faded ruins should be there.

Basically, the burned out farmstead we see in the Hobbit and Weathertop are what everything should look like. There should be burned out towers and the occasional farmstead (with or without people) and lots of worn paths. Middle-earth is old and lived in. It should resemble Europe, not New Zealand.

They do walk past ruins.

Yes, but not nearly as many as they should (which is my point). The only ruins that are in the movies are the ones specifically called out in the book. There's huge tracks of the movie that are pristine wilderness. It wouldn't look like that.

Rohan looked like badlands rather than green plains for raising horses. The Shire looked as if someone had built it in an afternoon, rather than accreting over centuries. Rivendell looked like a rather naff garden centre.

SA The mountains were just right, though.

Have to disagree about the Shire. I thought it looked like a very well loved village.

naff?

Yes. Yes to all of this.

Egyptian?

Yup. Tolkien envisioned Numenor to be somewhat Egyptian, and Gondor is based on Numenor. Tolkien even drew the crown:

http://i.stack.imgur.com/bDnmO.png

He talks about this in one of his letters. "I think the crown of Gondor (the S. Kingdom) was very tall, like that of Egypt, but with wings attached, not set straight back but at an angle. - The Letters of J. R. R. Tolkien - Letter #211"

And there is a Tolkien book I don't actually own. Well, going in my Amazon cart now. Thanks for the reference. Did not know about this one.

DENETHOR.

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