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It's not as well known because Danny Phantom is fairly obscure. But the basic context is, back in the early days Butch Hartman had a forum for fans, but since it was open to kids he made rules about making the forum appropriate for kids. He made rules about what was an wasn't allowed on the forum.

Obviously understandable, he had a kids' show and wanted to keep things friendly for kids. He was also a Christian so he wasn't that fond of slash. (and it didn't help that the big slash pairing in fandom was Vlad(a 40 year old) and Danny (a 14 year old).

He put a bunch of bnfs in fandom in charge as mods. They were the heads of the "truefan movement" a bunch of people dedicated to seeing that Butch's standards were respected in fandom. Only they applied the rules on the forum to the entire internet. They became the family friendly crusaders and started a crusade of fandom policing.

People who drew r34 for DP were the enemies. They were the first "anti-fans"- people who disobeyed the great Hartman and made fandom unfriendly for kids. The mods spread a rumor on the board that one r34 artist who drew incredibly show accurate art was a child molester who had been convicted and then they started a blacklist of everyone who watched him on dA

Then after that they went for slash fans, and people who paired Danny with OCs, and anybody who wrote things that weren't family friendly and safe. Some made glorified propaganda pics that treated Danny as if he were a real person being violated by the anti-fans. They prevailing belief was that the "antifans" weren't real fans because if they were they would follow Butch Hartman's standards and write pure G-rated family friendly art.

It went on for ages and I drifted out of fandom til it mostly calmed down. I don't doubt that they're still out there. Naturally the big fanwar of '04-05 did bupkis to stop non-PG rated art and fics. In fact the fandom that's still around loves grimdark angst. Like at one point we had a fan holiday month DEDICATED to writing angst. and to be fair the show itself lends itself constantly to dark and angst. Even from the very premise , as it's a popular interpretation/implication that Danny is essentially half dead.

As far as the family friendly policing went, a friend of mine says they got a mod warning on the forum, for having a ghost adult villain make a metaphor to wine sniffing.

This is why you don't hire your BNFs to police fandom for you.

Edited 2016-07-06 23:44 (UTC)

this is fucking delicious my god

It was. I mean it was terrifying and stressful when i was in the midst of it, but that was when I was a naive little babyfan who was just starting out. Now? It's hilarious

It's also IMO a good warning story about the dangers of fandom policing.

Also if you look on some fandom wank lj some people were talking about it and some truefan person came in to defend their position. Oh my God it was hilarious "I'm going to name all the bad guys in my NanoWriMo novel after you!"

"I'm going to name all the bad guys in my NanoWriMo novel after you!"

This is my new favorite insult ever

Bonus points for "and have my hero MURDER THEM"

Bonus: I wish I could take the Truefans and put them in an arena with the SJW Tumblr fandom police, and sell tickets. "Heteronormative Crusaders vs. Tumblr Social Justice- THE SMACK DOWN"

I would make enough to pay my health insurance for months.

Edited 2016-07-06 23:57 (UTC)

I'd buy a ticket :D.

Oh my God it was hilarious "I'm going to name all the bad guys in my NanoWriMo novel after you!"

Hey, if Michael Crichton can do it, why shouldn't they?

Sure do it, but don't be so obvious about it man. That just looks desperate.

Only they applied the rules on the forum to the entire internet.

...how exactly did they think that was going to work?

The mods spread a rumor on the board that one r34 artist who drew incredibly show accurate art was a child molester who had been convicted and then they started a blacklist of everyone who watched him on dA

Holy shit. That's horrible.

Yeow. I'm not at all well-versed in this show or its fandom, so this is fascinating to read about, but I pity anyone in that fandom who had to deal with that madness.

I don't know? The power of blacklisting and rumor spreading?

and i know. The scary thing is that when I was 15 and a member of that forum I believed it, until a friend told me about how he believed it too and we both realized that we were both tricked.

For me it wasn't as bad because nobody did anything to me. But it was constant fear that something you did was going to get you banned/shunned. I was eternally nervous they would find out about my Ember/Danny fanfic (tho I aged Danny up to 17.) and I'd try to login only to find i was banned and dubbed an "anti-fan"

I think one of the truefans, White Gryphon may still have their stuff on dA. They were insufferably self righteous. Created a"I"m not going to compromise my morals for your attention." stamp. Was one of the people who were like "OMG you're practically RAPING Danny with your art an shipping."

I suppose. But damn, they'd have one hell of a road ahead of them with that mission.

Yeah, that is one hell of a weighty accusation, and it pisses me off that people use that term without even understanding the serious consequences and what it actually means, just because they don't like the type of fic or pairings or drawings people are making. It's like how the word "pedophile" is getting horribly misused nowadays in various fandoms. I just want to throw dictionaries at those people and tell them to shut up.

And like you said, the fact that they can scare young people with those accusations about someone makes it even more horrific. Ugh. I don't blame you for being nervous back then, I would've been, too. I'm glad nothing happened to you, though, at least.

I think one of the truefans, White Gryphon may still have their stuff on dA. They were insufferably self righteous. Created a"I"m not going to compromise my morals for your attention." stamp. Was one of the people who were like "OMG you're practically RAPING Danny with your art an shipping."

*Rolls eyes so hard they nearly fall out of her head* Oh, for the love of...

Some people REALLY need to get out in the real world way more often.

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A well known "truefan"

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