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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2016-07-07 06:45 pm

[ SECRET POST #3473 ]


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Star Trek: Beyond

(Anonymous) 2016-07-07 11:22 pm (UTC)(link)
Looks like in the new movie Sulu will be gay (with a husband and daughter) in a nod to George Takei.

http://www.vulture.com/2016/07/john-cho-george-takei-sulu-gay-star-trek-beyond.html?mid=twitter_vulture

Re: Star Trek: Beyond

(Anonymous) 2016-07-07 11:30 pm (UTC)(link)
Anyone know what they're going to do about anton yelchin?

Chekov was cute and now we don't get him because some his actor was a douchebag. Are they recasting or what?
kaijinscendre: (gandalf sneering)

Re: Star Trek: Beyond

[personal profile] kaijinscendre 2016-07-07 11:33 pm (UTC)(link)
I'd assume they will have some throwaway line about him being promoted. I highly doubt they will recast him or kill him off.

And why do you think Anton Yelchin is a douchebag??? By all accounts he seemed like a fantastic guy.

Re: Star Trek: Beyond

(Anonymous) 2016-07-08 05:57 am (UTC)(link)
Dying in an accident makes him a douchebag?

Re: Star Trek: Beyond

(Anonymous) 2016-07-08 12:09 pm (UTC)(link)
No, but failing to RTFM really goes half way there.

Re: Star Trek: Beyond

(Anonymous) 2016-07-07 11:32 pm (UTC)(link)
Eh. Not thrilled. Sulu liking women was canon in TOS (I know we shouldn't expect the movies to follow the series canon, but it'd still be nice if they tried) and didn't Takei himself dislike people equating him with his character in that way? Making him bi would have been better.

Re: Star Trek: Beyond

(Anonymous) 2016-07-07 11:34 pm (UTC)(link)
Lots of a things are canon in TOS. Like Kirk's dad being alive. Or all the Vulcans being alive. If they can kill off a whole race, they can change a character's sexuality.

Re: Star Trek: Beyond

(Anonymous) 2016-07-07 11:37 pm (UTC)(link)
One, I don't think they explicitly said that he's gay rather than bi? They said the character would be in a gay relationship, not that the character was specifically gay.

Two, even if you care about canon, this is an alternate universe version of the character.

Three, fuck canon.

Re: Star Trek: Beyond

(Anonymous) 2016-07-07 11:53 pm (UTC)(link)
Nope, it's being said everywhere that he will be gay. And yep, Takei doesn't like it and SJWs are getting mad at him for it lmao

Re: Star Trek: Beyond

(Anonymous) 2016-07-08 12:02 am (UTC)(link)
His reasoning for not liking it is so weird. Like THAT is the change that will ruin Roddenberry's vision. But not the dozens of other changes.

Re: Star Trek: Beyond

(Anonymous) 2016-07-07 11:51 pm (UTC)(link)
Directly above me: Two people who think reading something is optional if it's in parentheses.

Re: Star Trek: Beyond

(Anonymous) 2016-07-07 11:55 pm (UTC)(link)
Fuck outta here, nothing I said implies that I didn't read that post.

(The post said that we can't expect the movies to follow the series canon; that's different from pointing out that there's an in-universe explanation for why this is a different version of the character)

Re: Star Trek: Beyond

(Anonymous) 2016-07-08 02:08 am (UTC)(link)
It makes me really sad that George Takei publicly disapproves. I understand his reasoning, but I think there are probably good reasons from a production standpoint and there's something undeniably powerful about a character we already care about being openly gay. (Unless the movie comes out and there's an entirely original awesome character who is unnecessarily straight, in which case I might get out my pitchfork)

In other news this movie comes out on my birthday (and it's a big one) and I'm a trekkie who's been yelling about more LGBT representation in Star Trek for years. So I wasn't very excited about it but now... if the reviews are good I might go see it opening night!

Re: Star Trek: Beyond

(Anonymous) 2016-07-08 07:59 am (UTC)(link)
I feel that he might dislike his character being seemingly "reduced" to his real life sexuality (I'm not saying he is Hut it might feel that way). And it's also a bit of tokenism at play "let's make the guy who was played by that gay guy TM gay in the movies" instead of tackling the issue in a different way.