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⌈ Secret Post #3473 ⌋

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Re: Controversial Opinion thread

[(Anonymous)]

Not really controversial, more that it's one people won't hear me out on because it sounds like I'm being anti-welfare. So let me say up front - I'm not against welfare. Or affordable healthcare. Or anything else. In fact, I'm for them.

However, I DO agree with the stance that communities and families should be stepping in to take care of each other more. They don't, and in many cases can't because everyone's hurting, which is why we need the government. But I see GoFundMe pages to raise money for funerals or much-needed operations for toddlers, and I think... where is the community? Why isn't anyone raising money? Why isn't anyone helping? Why do they need to rely on strangers? (Unless of course the page is just a way FOR the community to help.) And I think about this often. Why aren't more people offering to help the single mother who can't work? It goes on.

So yeah, I'm for government assistance, but truth be told I think fewer people would need it if more people took care of their own.

(Yes, I know GoFundMe isn't government related, I just mean in the grand scheme of things...)

Re: Controversial Opinion thread

[(Anonymous)]

People won't ask their communities for help because their communities probably won't help them, they'll just tell them to get on welfare. And then they'll complain about how everyone on welfare is just lazy. People don't like to help others, so they don't like to believe other people who say they need it.

Re: Controversial Opinion thread

[dethtoll]

Yup, this exactly.

Re: Controversial Opinion thread

[(Anonymous)]

Maybe it just depends on who and where you are. In my home town, I see posters for medical benefits all the time. So-and-so needs surgery or a piece of medical equipment that's not covered by insurance? Another needs funds so that members of the family can afford to stay long-term in Iowa City while a child receives a risky experimental treatment at the hospital there? People will throw a spaghetti dinner with a silent auction or a 5K race; food and prizes will be donated; people will sign up to run and will get sponsors for it.

But people are apt to help their neighbors, the Main Street merchants they've done business with for years or the teacher who's taught all the kids in their neighborhood, or the members of their church or lodge. If you've just moved from across the country (or the state), or you just aren't a joiner, you could be shit out of luck.

Re: Controversial Opinion thread

[(Anonymous)]

I wonder this too. When my mom's friend had a stroke, pretty much everyone she knew pitched in to help with the medical costs. Even if they couldn't give much, they still gave SOMETHING, and if they couldn't give anything then they volunteered to help out in some other way. Growing up I always thought that this was just how things worked.

Re: Controversial Opinion thread

[chardmonster]

But I see GoFundMe pages to raise money for funerals or much-needed operations for toddlers

...who the hell do you think is contributing to the GoFundMe? People do this through facebook. The Community has facebooks. You didn't think GoFundMe was mostly about reblogging shit on tumblr did you?

I agree that The Community should be doing more but that's exactly what people are trying to do with that.

Re: Controversial Opinion thread

[diet_poison]

That's what I was thinking. I would guess that GoFundMe etc. ends up being largely funded by people who know the fundee.

Re: Controversial Opinion thread

[(Anonymous)]

Not all communities are willing to do anything. It needs to be the kind of community where everyone has roots going back generations, or where you all went through some crisis together, or where you all have something major in common that disadvantages you compared to the surrounding population, like you're all LGBT or you all just emmigrated from Serbia in the 1800s.

I don't live where I grew up. Where I grew up wasn't where my parents grew up. Where my parents grew up wasn't where my grandparents grew up. The pattern goes back even further. Growing up, there were kids in my neighborhood who went to the same school as their cousins and could visit their grandparents. I needed a plane ticket to California to visit mine. Our neighbor 2 houses down was the grandson of the man who built our house. We were the same nationality, race, and religion as nearly everyone else - even had the same accent - but we were outsiders. I was oblivious to it as a kid, but people sure let my parents know and my mother has always been bitter about it. She basically had zero local friends until she went back to work. If we'd needed serious help, we'd have been shit out of luck.

Families are great (mine has certainly pulled together, despite distances) but we've been fortunate not to be tested by serious financial disaster. Not everyone has a big family or a family that wants anything to do with them or a family who isn't awful or a family that has any means to help. What if you're the only child of only children and don't have a partner or grown kids? What if you escaped from a polygamous cult?

Re: Controversial Opinion thread

[darkmanifest]

Depends on your circumstances. I grew up in a big city where the hundreds of people in my apartment building and the surrounding buildings were total strangers with no loyalty to or interest in one another. I went to school with countless kids from all parts, we weren't remotely cohesive. Most of my blood relatives are scattered all over the country and have never met me. I know a few nice locals, business owners who know me well enough to give me credit when I need it, neighbors who'll accept packages for me, minor stuff like that. But would they help raise money for funeral expenses? Lol. Some people live in a community, other people live in a faceless crowd.

Re: Controversial Opinion thread

[(Anonymous)]

because people living in poor areas who can't afford funerals or medical care are likely to have friends and family who also can't afford either of those things either?