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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2016-07-08 06:18 pm

[ SECRET POST #3474 ]


⌈ Secret Post #3474 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

01.
[Hide and Seek by Imogen Heap]



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02. http://i.imgur.com/8Lfgcp8.jpg
[A Game of Thrones, Tyene Sand; link because OP warned for nudity]


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03.
[Independence Day]


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04.
[Queen at Arms]


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05. [repeat]


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06. [WARNING for underage/shota]

[Boku no Pico]


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07. [SPOILERS for Game of Thrones]



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08. [WARNING for incest]
[WARNING for rape]



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09. [WARNING for gore, torture]
















Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 00 pages, 00 secrets from Secret Submission Post #496.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 1 2- too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

Re: Is anyone else really really angry at george takai?

(Anonymous) 2016-07-08 11:12 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm not against this reveal, but I actually really appreciate what he's said about it (which isn't just "an old white straight man said it so now I'm mad").

From the BBC:

"I told him [John Cho, who told GT that Sulu would be gay], 'Be imaginative and create a character who has a history of being gay, rather than Sulu, who had been straight all this time, suddenly being revealed as being closeted'."

He played him as straight. In his mind and the mind of the creators, he was straight. To reveal suddenly that he's been "gay all along," without that affecting the character in any way that would have come up in sixty years, takes a lot of meaning out of that aspect of the character.

I think this incident actually gets at a big problem in straight people's attitudes towards LGBT issues, which is the tendency to think that the most progressive viewpoint is that it "doesn't matter." The first headline I saw about the reveal read "Sulu Is Gay In Star Trek: Beyond and It's Not A Big Deal." But....it is a big deal to be gay. Whether or not it should be in 2016, it is a big deal to be gay, and to act as though all you need to do to write a gay character is take a straight character and slap a same-sex partner on them is a really fundamental misunderstanding of what it means to be gay.

So, yeah. I'm with George on this one.

Re: Is anyone else really really angry at george takai?

(Anonymous) 2016-07-08 11:16 pm (UTC)(link)
He played the original character as gay. He doesn't own the character, especially the new one.

Re: Is anyone else really really angry at george takai?

(Anonymous) 2016-07-08 11:16 pm (UTC)(link)
*as straight

Re: Is anyone else really really angry at george takai?

(Anonymous) 2016-07-08 11:26 pm (UTC)(link)
Totally fair! I don't think he has any particular ownership over the character, and if the writers want to make their new character gay, that's 100% up to them. What doesn't sit well with me is that they consulted him first, were told that he was deeply uncomfortable with it and would rather they not do it, and then said "lol let's do it anyway." And that on top of all that, people are mad at him (Takei) for his perspective. Artistic freedom, etc. etc., everyone's entitled to their opinion, but it strikes me as nasty.