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⌈ Secret Post #3474 ⌋

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[Hide and Seek by Imogen Heap]

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02. http://i.imgur.com/8Lfgcp8.jpg
[A Game of Thrones, Tyene Sand; link because OP warned for nudity]

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[Independence Day]

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[Queen at Arms]

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05. [repeat]

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06. [WARNING for underage/shota]

[Boku no Pico]

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07. [SPOILERS for Game of Thrones]

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08. [WARNING for incest]
[WARNING for rape]

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09. [WARNING for gore, torture]

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I wouldn't allow the stop sign thing because yes there's no moral issue about it but legal issues abound.

Have 500 wedding ceremonies with the stop sign and declare yourselves in love all you want, but the stop sign shouldn't be able to, for example, inherit all your things when you die.

LGBT people fight for marriage "rights" for a reason. Legal rights. Ones that shouldn't be minimized.

I had no intention of minimizing LGBTQ+ rights. I'm actally bisexual myself, so I totally get it. I'm just saying "sanctity of marriage" is 100% bullshit and marrying a human, a bird, or a stop sign affects no one else in anyway whatsoever. Hell, marry 10 people! Why should it matter at all?

That's my whole point you missed. Officially marrying things gives certain legal rights to both parties being married. If you marry 10 people or a bird and the government has to recognize it, it's a shitshow for the legal system.

There's ceremonial weddings - your "sanctity" - and then there's being legally recognized as married - "marriage" - and provided marriage rights by the government, and those two things are different.

The sanctity of marriage is 100% bullshit. The practicality of marriage rights is not. Taxes, rights, where estates go, who has claim as family to make decisions for you if you're unable, etc.

But all those ramifications would be the responsibility of the person, their spouse(s), and the legal department. That wouldn't affect anyone outside of the parties involved. Why does it matter if a person decides they want their five spouses to decide what happens when they die? It doesn't affect you or me at all.

You seem to be strawmanning some anti-poly person here for some reason. I don't care if someone wants to marry 5 people. I think the system should be expanded to include that. It'd be a shitshow but I wouldn't mind it happening... for humans.

I care if someone wants to marry a stop sign because then that gives human rights to the stop sign. Which makes no sense and minimizes human rights that actual people don't have. That's what I said in the first post.

You seem to be strawmanning some anti-poly person here for some reason. I honestly don't know what you mean by this.

But I do NOW get where you're coming from about humanizing an inanimate object. I disagree, but I understand what you mean. Thank you for clarifying and being patient with me about it!

It's just... how to put it. The opposite of going "but gay marriage will lead to dog marriage! stop sign marriage! They'll be giving rights to everything!" then someone actually marrying a stop sign and giving it legal marriage rights makes a mockery of the very serious and important things like hospital visitation that people have fought so hard for.

"You seem to be strawmanning some anti-poly person here for some reason."

Regarding that, I meant you brought in poly marriage at random as something I was supposedly against, when all I was talking about was the stop sign.

Oh, I didn't mean to come off that way. I didn't mean to imply that you were anti-poly. I was just trying to use it as an example and kind of lumped things together, which I now see fogged things up.

But I understand your point about inanimate objects. Though I do recall that a woman married the Eiffel Tower, so I don't put anything past government officials.

Another anon brought up a good point below, and I would say I'm all for the system being reworked to recognize marriage between any and all adult parties that are able to give informed consent. So that'd exclude objects and animals but be open to poly relationships, among others. So we're not too far off in terms of stance, really.

So we're not too far off in terms of stance, really.

No, I totally realize that! This is the kind of discussion that I wanted. And I'm glad people have been civil so far about it. This is something that genuinely is important to me, and I'm glad I could discuss it with other people.

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