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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2016-07-08 06:18 pm

[ SECRET POST #3474 ]


⌈ Secret Post #3474 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[Hide and Seek by Imogen Heap]



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02. http://i.imgur.com/8Lfgcp8.jpg
[A Game of Thrones, Tyene Sand; link because OP warned for nudity]


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03.
[Independence Day]


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04.
[Queen at Arms]


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05. [repeat]


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06. [WARNING for underage/shota]

[Boku no Pico]


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07. [SPOILERS for Game of Thrones]



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08. [WARNING for incest]
[WARNING for rape]



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09. [WARNING for gore, torture]
















Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 00 pages, 00 secrets from Secret Submission Post #496.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 1 2- too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
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Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

Pro-Choice [Potential TW?]

(Anonymous) 2016-07-08 11:12 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm pro-choice, but I think that mentality should extend past only abortion. I feel that anyone should be able to do anything with their bodies, as long as no one else gets hurt. If you want plastic surgery for fake wings, go for it. If you want to kill yourself, you should be allowed to without someone intervening if you don't want someone to intervene. If you want to marry a stop sign, more power to you.

Basically, I'm just wondering if anyone else feels this way. Sometimes I feel like these views are not well-received when I voice them. I'm just wondering if anyone agrees with me or why they don't agree with me. I want to understand both sides here.

Re: Pro-Choice [Potential TW?]

(Anonymous) 2016-07-08 11:13 pm (UTC)(link)
I agree.

Re: Pro-Choice [Potential TW?]

(Anonymous) 2016-07-08 11:17 pm (UTC)(link)
no one else gets hurt</>

physically yeah, but suicide is almost always an emotional and legal burden for those close to the deceased

OP

(Anonymous) 2016-07-08 11:18 pm (UTC)(link)
Why should someone else's emotional pain be used as blackmail to keep someone alive when they don't want to be?
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[personal profile] insanenoodlyguy 2016-07-09 09:52 pm (UTC)(link)
What if, say, that person leaves a family they are financially responsible for? Happened to a friend of a friend a few years back. I admit to holding significant amounts of contempt for this person, putting a whole bunch of at LEAST financial difficulties on their infant child.
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Re: Pro-Choice [Potential TW?]

[personal profile] kallanda_lee 2016-07-08 11:18 pm (UTC)(link)
True, but, you could not make it a burden legally but, you know - legislation?
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Re: Pro-Choice [Potential TW?]

[personal profile] kallanda_lee 2016-07-08 11:17 pm (UTC)(link)
I actually agree.

Re: Pro-Choice [Potential TW?]

(Anonymous) 2016-07-08 11:18 pm (UTC)(link)
I wouldn't allow the stop sign thing because yes there's no moral issue about it but legal issues abound.

Have 500 wedding ceremonies with the stop sign and declare yourselves in love all you want, but the stop sign shouldn't be able to, for example, inherit all your things when you die.

LGBT people fight for marriage "rights" for a reason. Legal rights. Ones that shouldn't be minimized.

OP

(Anonymous) 2016-07-08 11:21 pm (UTC)(link)
I had no intention of minimizing LGBTQ+ rights. I'm actally bisexual myself, so I totally get it. I'm just saying "sanctity of marriage" is 100% bullshit and marrying a human, a bird, or a stop sign affects no one else in anyway whatsoever. Hell, marry 10 people! Why should it matter at all?

Re: OP

(Anonymous) 2016-07-08 11:24 pm (UTC)(link)
That's my whole point you missed. Officially marrying things gives certain legal rights to both parties being married. If you marry 10 people or a bird and the government has to recognize it, it's a shitshow for the legal system.

There's ceremonial weddings - your "sanctity" - and then there's being legally recognized as married - "marriage" - and provided marriage rights by the government, and those two things are different.

The sanctity of marriage is 100% bullshit. The practicality of marriage rights is not. Taxes, rights, where estates go, who has claim as family to make decisions for you if you're unable, etc.

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Re: Pro-Choice [Potential TW?]

(Anonymous) 2016-07-08 11:27 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, sure.

I would also like safe suicide programmes too. Right now people who want to kill themselves have to do it alone and in private and probably very painfully. With whatever crap that drove them to that being bad enough, forcing someone to die in pain and alone is just cruel. I strongly feel that safe suicide sanctuaries, no questions asked. Well questions asked is okay and so is the offer of counselling, but no not taking no for an answer or forcing counseling, if someone wants to do it then give them a safe place and as pain free a death as possible. No circular reasoning to try and prevent it (right now you are only considered sane enough to want to die if you say that you do not want to die, and therefore you get sent home and end up dying a painful lonely death because the people you went to for help avoiding that wouldn't give that help to you unless you said you didn't want it).

OP

(Anonymous) 2016-07-08 11:33 pm (UTC)(link)
Yes, this! Exactly. You put it perfectly.

Re: Pro-Choice [Potential TW?]

(Anonymous) 2016-07-08 11:40 pm (UTC)(link)
Right, so what you're saying is, suicidal people never get better. ok

OP

(Anonymous) 2016-07-08 11:50 pm (UTC)(link)
I think suicidal ideation will be a constantly recurring symptom for anyone with depression or other illness(es).

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Re: Pro-Choice [Potential TW?]

(Anonymous) 2016-07-09 12:05 am (UTC)(link)
Suicidal people may or may not move beyond wishing for suicide, but whether they choose to or not is up to nobody but them. Like I said. Offer counseling, offer solutions, but that is where the line gets drawn. At the offering. If you do not believe in suicide then do not choose to commit suicide and do not choose to work at a suicide safe sanctuary. The choice should be left to the individual as to whether they wish to take the option of trying to carry on or whether they wish to lay down their burden in peace and without pain.

Re: Pro-Choice [Potential TW?]

(Anonymous) 2016-07-08 11:39 pm (UTC)(link)
As someone who was, in the past, suicidal, fuck you. I was sick. Very sick. No, it wasn't 'okay' for me to kill myself, no matter how much I wanted to at the time, and I thank every god out there that there were people there to stop me and help me get better.

OP

(Anonymous) 2016-07-08 11:44 pm (UTC)(link)
As someone who was also suicidal in the past, I totally disagree with you. I wish I had been allowed to die rather than live in perpetual worry that my depression will return over and over again. Sure I feel okay now with meds and my family support, but if I wanted to die, I should have, as an adult, been allowed to make that choice rather than being locked in a hospital.

Re: OP

(Anonymous) 2016-07-08 11:49 pm (UTC)(link)
I really don't give a shit. You are suicide encouraging, and spitting in the face of countless depression survivors.

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Re: Pro-Choice [Potential TW?]

(Anonymous) 2016-07-09 12:11 am (UTC)(link)
As someone who has seen the remains of too many suicide victims who died horrible deaths in private or in public because they were determined to die and actively avoided the Mental Health profession due to it forcing a treatment plan on them, I find the idea of legal suicide much kinder and more pragmatic than denying it. If some people genuinely do not want to live then they will find a way to kill themselves, I'd rather it was a humane way or one which did not involve them mentally scarring commuters or motorists.

Re: Pro-Choice [Potential TW?]

(Anonymous) 2016-07-08 11:42 pm (UTC)(link)
How the fuck could a stop sign legally consent to marriage?

OP

(Anonymous) 2016-07-08 11:45 pm (UTC)(link)
Idk, I just picked something random to get my point across that what other people do with their lives is none of my business or concern if it's not hurting me.

Re: OP

(Anonymous) 2016-07-08 11:48 pm (UTC)(link)
Your point is nonsensical. You can't marry animals or stop signs, because marriage requires consent. Not to mention, is a legal institution which determines taxes, inheritance, whatever.

I don't think anyone gives a fuck if you hold a marriage ceremony with your stop sign (you can throw any kind of party you want), but are you actually arguing it should be legally recognized?

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Re: Pro-Choice [Potential TW?]

(Anonymous) 2016-07-09 12:37 am (UTC)(link)
I'm sorry, but this comment is hilarious.

Re: Pro-Choice [Potential TW?]

(Anonymous) 2016-07-09 01:00 am (UTC)(link)
FUCK YOU! THAT STOP SIGN CAN NEVER CONSENT!

Re: Pro-Choice [Potential TW?]

(Anonymous) 2016-07-09 07:48 am (UTC)(link)
Well, you can "extend the mentality" all you want, but legislations should be carefully considered, given the kind of legal precedents you create you when, say, grant personhood to a stop sign. Which, I know, is not your point, but do you see what I mean?