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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2016-07-18 07:25 pm

[ SECRET POST #3484 ]


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(Anonymous) 2016-07-18 11:40 pm (UTC)(link)
To be fair women are the moral center for most societies.

(Anonymous) 2016-07-18 11:42 pm (UTC)(link)
I dont really see where you're coming from. Could you explain?

(Anonymous) 2016-07-18 11:59 pm (UTC)(link)
Every bit of moral growth modern societies have is lead by women. Think about it. Women pushed for the vote to be given to everyone regardless of military service. White women were there standing with the civil right movement. Women pushed for gay acceptance, and women are the people today pushing for trans acceptance.

I should clarify, not JUST women, Obviously, blacks were the driving force behind the civil rights movement, Gays behind the gay acceptance movement, and trans people are part of trans rights, but outside of the specific group affected, women are the people pushing for change. No moral social change happens without women as a class getting behind it.

It doesn't in any way make up for the lack of economic, political or social power that we're still denied today, but moral power is what we have in spades.

(Anonymous) 2016-07-19 12:01 am (UTC)(link)
But anon, isn't it s just the case that social change only happens as a result of mass movements, and that just from the law of averages you would expect women to be about half of any mass movement?

Do you have any evidence that women play a greater role than expected?

(Anonymous) 2016-07-19 12:21 am (UTC)(link)
White women also tried to keep black women out of the suffrage movement, though...
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[personal profile] crossy_woad 2016-07-19 01:37 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, a lot did. Intersectionality matters, and often people can see something unjust in one area and yet think there's no problem in other areas, because they haven't experienced it. People can be really narrow-minded that way.

My brother can understand that "the n-word" is offensive, but not other racial slurs, that other racial groups don't face prejudice and should get over it and take a joke, basically. People don't always get prejudice.

People need more empathy, basically. It's not a given in any section of society.
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[personal profile] crossy_woad 2016-07-19 01:35 am (UTC)(link)
Maybe it's a case of people w/ lots of power feeling like "seems good" and people without are more likely to see the unfairness and work to change it?

When only men could vote, they thought that was the proper way of things. Most of them; I'm sure there were exception. Of course there was a lot of theology and pseudo-science, etc., but what it came down to was they thought they were superior and women couldn't handle the responsibility, and shouldn't, and it wasn't moral, etc.

I've heard some of the same arguments, lol.