[ SECRET POST #3485 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #3485 ⌋

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

But how else are they going to collect Special Snowflake Points?

[(Anonymous)]

my theory is not that they want to be special, it's that they want to be Right

if you identify with a character, you're more or less basing off canon. on the other hand saying you're kin makes your headcanon the 'real' thing and other people are Wrong when they disagree with you about them and you would know because you're kin. plebs who only identify know nothing

[(Anonymous)]

ayrt

You're definitely on the right track with your analyisis. It's that unbearable mindset of not wanting to accept other interpretations and opinions. So they're basically making something up to have a chance of crying "You're opinion is oppressing me! You're a bigot" to control other people's opinions and construct artifical value around their own.

[(Anonymous)]

ive just noticed that most of the time people don't say they're kin to say they're super cool or unique, they use it as a weapon like you said. to say the character told them this or are this way and everyone else is some kind of asshole for suggesting otherwise or interpreting them otherwise. it's a way to stake a claim onto a creation that isn't yours

people who 'identify' do that too, by saying 'i am also of group X and people of group X don't do this and so that character would never do Y' and so forth. the kin thing is just a more immature way of doing it - in the literal age sense because it's easier for younger teens to understand than the latter

[(Anonymous)]

Yes, there's definitely a generation gap going on. And it fits my impression that the overall climate in fandom has become a lot more hostile and agressive.

I mean, there always has been ship wars and other drama. But it was a lot easier to avoid it. Nowadays you can write some sort of harmless meta and a fiction-kin and they're followers can come screaming at you that you're a harmful and toxic person. It's crazy.

[sarillia]

I think some of that is down to the format. It's a lot easier for lots of different people to stumble across your post on Tumblr than it was on LJ.

[(Anonymous)]

Unfourtunately it is. It's a whole lot messier and unorganized.

Ah, damn, this is one of those discussions that once again make me mourn the fact that tumblr replaced lj as a platform. Lj had its bad points too but at least you had a better overview and organisation about discussions etc.

[diet_poison]

If only LJ's mods hadn't let it go to shit... (I don't think that's the only reason it got replaced or anything, but it was definitely a factor. I think a lot of people wanted to stick with a journal-based platform but LJ just wasn't cutting it anymore, and DW never gained much steam.)

[(Anonymous)]

I think it got repleced because it's just easier for people to create a hugbox for themselves on tumblr. Plus, social media requires so little effort just to get noticed. You needed to provide some kind of content on lj. But, on tumblr, you just need to reblog the most popular things to gain a following. I think those are the real reasons Dreamwidth never took off.

[(Anonymous)]

This is exactly my experience to. Every time I stumble across someone who uses the word 'kin', it's always with the caveat that they're the "real" version of who/whatever. It seems to be used almost exclusively as leverage over 'wrong' opinions, and almost never to express an actual 'kinship' (i.e., 'identification') with X or Y character.

[(Anonymous)]

exactly. it's always something like i'm kin to bob and he tells me he's trans so anyone who says bob is cis is a transphobe or trans-erasing... or something else like that.

[(Anonymous)]

Yes, this so much. Fiction-kin is basically just another uniform of the Fandom Opinion Police.

[feotakahari]

There can only be one Christ in Ypsilanti? https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Three_Christs_of_Ypsilanti

[(Anonymous)]

considering how many fiction-kin refuse to associate or accept that others are kin to the same character as them, i would say very likely

[diet_poison]

That to me is the WEIRDEST part. I've seen some weird tumblrs where people are like "DON'T FOLLOW ME IF YOU ARE KIN WITH MICKEY MOUSE"

ok I've never seen it with Mickey Mouse but I'm sure it's out there

but insert applicable character and boom

[sarillia]

Ooh I heard about that case but didn't know there was a book! I'll need to check that out.

[(Anonymous)]

interesting point. I think you're onto something.

[(Anonymous)]

Idk, made-up neo-genders/claiming to be non-binary when they're not seems pretty popular.

[(Anonymous)]

yeah :( makes me sad because it belittles the reality of actually trans/non-b people. but then, who am I to police who is and is not non-b? ugh so messy...