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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2016-07-19 06:17 pm

[ SECRET POST #3485 ]


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[personal profile] mrs_don_draper 2016-07-19 10:43 pm (UTC)(link)
Ugh, gross. I thought the whole "otherkin" was a world of it's own. Since when can you be "kin" to something that is a figment of writers' imaginations?

(Anonymous) 2016-07-19 10:44 pm (UTC)(link)
Apparently this has been going on for years, even back when lj still was a thing. But it was on tumblr the community took really off.

[personal profile] mrs_don_draper 2016-07-19 10:47 pm (UTC)(link)
I've only seen a few posts of it on tumblr, but I can only imagine it will soon explode and become tumblr's new "thing." Thank god I never ran in those circles on LJ.

(Anonymous) 2016-07-19 10:53 pm (UTC)(link)
I've been on tumblr for a while and I've only ever heard about it on here in these forums.

It's a very very small and obsuce part of fandom, and everyone acting like this is some new big "trend" are overeacting imo.
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[personal profile] morieris 2016-07-19 10:56 pm (UTC)(link)
Every so often I'll come across a kid with five pages of an 'about me' and one of those is dedicated to whoever they 'kin' with, and rules like "don't follow me if you are also -kin to this character.'

it's easy enough to ignore but it's pretty strange to me.

(Anonymous) 2016-07-19 11:02 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah thats pretty strange. At the end of the day though, they're still just a bunch of dumb weird kids playing pretend, so I always end up ignoreing them and forget about them entirely by tomarrow.

(Anonymous) 2016-07-20 09:26 pm (UTC)(link)
I think it's a pretty interesting symbolic condension of identity. There are so many modes of existing in our digitized and globally connected world that stereotyping is sometimes necessary, or at least convenient to communicate. Decades ago, saying "I'm a woman from France" would have served as a starting point to let another person know who you are. With National identities and Gender roles diversified like they are today, aligning oneself with fictional characters that are well known in your demographic is simply more practical and economic.
"Don't follow me if you're kin with Spongebob" is the equivalent of "I don't like roman catholics so don't bother."

(Anonymous) 2016-07-19 10:57 pm (UTC)(link)
Absolutely depends on the fandom you're in. You can be lucky and have a fandom completely free of it. And then there are fandoms with very loud and vocal fiction-kinner in it.

It's not the size of the movement. It's the fact that many of them are loud, agressive and very nasty behaving.

(Anonymous) 2016-07-19 10:54 pm (UTC)(link)
I accidentally managed to stumble over the deeper part of it. At first I could not believe that people were actually serious about it. But yes... they are.

I'm sure as hell are trying to avoid those circles but you know: What has once been seen can never again be unseen.

[personal profile] plushulala 2016-07-20 02:18 am (UTC)(link)
This predates even lj, but saying this stuff on a message board would get one banned, and this was certainly not the kind of thing you'd want to tell people on Usenet or IRC. It wouldn't end well...

The idea of fiction kinship is based on the theory (I think) that, when one creates a fictional world, what they're really doing is tapping into something that exists in another dimension (alternate reality). And so, you can be kin with something that exists because you are crossing dimensions. This is how it was explained to me a long time ago. This is really not a new thing.

(Anonymous) 2016-07-20 09:19 pm (UTC)(link)
Pretty much this, with the bonus of being able to claim that the creator/s are ttly getting their kin wrong! They misunderstood something or are writing propaganda or just doesn't get it's not really "theirs" and so on.
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[personal profile] feotakahari 2016-07-19 10:54 pm (UTC)(link)
I think it got stolen from the DID community. Some kid's being abused and thinks a fictional character could save them, so they create a persona based on that fictional character. Then people on Tumblr started treating it like their "spirit animal." (lb-lee is informative if you want to stumble down the DID rabbithole.)
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(Anonymous) 2016-07-20 01:00 am (UTC)(link)
It sort of formed concurrently in the DID and Otherkin communities (unsurprisingly, there was a lot of overlap in the early aughties), though the DID community was a bit more accepting, while the majority of Otherkin folks just did not want to be associated with that nonsense (whether or not it's any more or less nonsensical than the whole Otherkin thing in general has been a point of debate for more than a decade). The bored-teenage-snowflake contingent picked it up long before Tumblr, it just really sort of hit the ground running there because the format lends itself much more to being loud in every possible direction than blogging sites and forums do, so it was suddenly uncontained.
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[identity profile] mimi-sardinia.livejournal.com 2016-07-20 03:15 am (UTC)(link)
My flitting around the edges of soulbonding back around '04 indicated that while some soulbonders were fine with a DID-related definition, quite a few weren't and ascribed more to the "anything fictional exists on an astral plane" idea.

Soulbonders seem like they were far closer to DID than FictionKin do - 'bonders merely claimed they shared headspace with a fictional (and sometimes not fictiona) characters. Fickin seem to claim they are the character.

(Anonymous) 2016-07-20 07:18 am (UTC)(link)
I think the idea is that it's not actually a figment of the writer's imagination--that on some other plane of existence, the characters and 'verse are real, and the author just found some way to access that and is like a stenographer or chronicler, not a creator at all.