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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2016-07-22 06:39 pm

[ SECRET POST #3488 ]


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(Anonymous) 2016-07-22 11:11 pm (UTC)(link)
this movie made me realize orcs are hot!

(Anonymous) 2016-07-22 11:38 pm (UTC)(link)
Once you create a Battlenet account you can download at least a few of the older games (both Reign of Chaos and Frozen Throne of Warcraft 3 for sure.)

A lot of what was in the movies is in the books, I htink: (Through the Dark Portal and The Last Guardian) though the movie did cut/change the canon lore in places.
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[personal profile] otakugal15 2016-07-23 02:11 am (UTC)(link)
There's also Warcraft: Chronicle. It's a great book that gives a nice, detailed overview of things up to The Last Guardian.

[personal profile] cbrachyrhynchos 2016-07-22 11:39 pm (UTC)(link)
Don't worry about it. Warcraft lore is a hot mess of retcons, and the essentials get explained as part of WoW questing.
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[personal profile] nightscale 2016-07-22 11:52 pm (UTC)(link)
You can still buy or download the older games if you want I think? As far as the online game goes, much as I love it the lore is a hot-mess and it remains to be seen what(if anything) we'll see from the game in the movies. (My bet is nothing and they'll just put some easter eggs in from the online game, which I'm cool with tbh).

(Anonymous) 2016-07-23 12:08 am (UTC)(link)
As someone who's played the earlier games (basically everything except WoW)...

First three games are Real Time Strategy, then you WoW aka one of the most well-known MMOs out there. Neither genre is for everyone.
First two might need shenanigans (Dosbox) to run, as they're mid-90s. (1 was '94, 2 was '95 and had a rerelease in '99 for Battle.net.)

I found the first game's control scheme/mechanics hard to adjust to since I played 2 first. 2 was where right-clicking to move units first showed up.

Click the sheep/wildlife a lot, it's funny :3
And your units too.

I vaguely remember reading a manual for 2 that explained who everyone was and possibly the plot of 1 as well. So manuals might be worth a look. (Even if just for the art, there's some cool official art.)
There are also EU books and (I think) an official wiki, you could look into them too.

3 definitely has a lot of cutscenes (earlier games might, too, but I can't remember), if you wanna find a way to watch them for the plot. (Or play them, obviously.)
There's generally a campaign for each race in each game/expansion. I think the first two have both campaigns canon until the last mission, which is only canon on one side. 3's campaigns are more linear and less mutually-exclusive.

The lore gets edited when it's convenient, which iirc is why they use the term "lore" or something (rather than "canon").
Just roll with stuff until you hear otherwise, basically. (The newer the installment, the more current the lore in it.)

(Anonymous) 2016-07-23 12:22 am (UTC)(link)
warcraft was better when it was still rts

i spent HOURS on 1 - although human mission 7 can still suck it

(Anonymous) 2016-07-23 03:24 am (UTC)(link)
+1

(Anonymous) 2016-07-23 07:25 am (UTC)(link)
The first two games are relatively easy to find for download on abandonware sites, and the third one is available on the official site.

If you can't or down't want to download the games, there are a few alternative ways to get the gist of the story (be aware that the movie vesion of the events takes into account the several retcons the lore has undergone since 1994, and made some changes of its own to the official game lore as it currently stands.):

For the first two games, just reading the backstory from their respective manuals will give you plenty. The story within the games was mostly displayed in the form of scrolling text before and after playing a campaign, so there's no real character interaction for you to miss.

Warcraft: Orcs and Humans (http://wow.gamepedia.com/Warcraft:_Orcs_%26_Humans_manual)
Warcraft 2: Tides of Darkness (http://wow.gamepedia.com/Warcraft_II:_Tides_of_Darkness_manual)
Warcraft 2 expansion pack: Beyond the Dark Portal (http://wow.gamepedia.com/Warcraft_II:_Beyond_the_Dark_Portal_manual)

Warcraft 3: Reigns of Chaos, and Warcraft 3: The Frozen Throne were more character-driven, and the hero units would often have conversations during gameplay, so most of the story is in there.This video contains all the cutscenes and cinematics, though it does omit some incidental conversations that relate to the current map rather than the plot (things like characters remarking that the mechanism to open a door must be somewhere nearby, or someone noticing that something is off moments before being ambushed by enemy units):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IIz4lgxlLHw

Then there are the official novels. I think the RTS games are mostly covered in Rise of the Horde, The Last Guardian, and Lord of the Clans. World of Warcraft: Chronicle Volume 1, which came out earlier this year, offers the most comprehensive and up-to-date view of the major lore up to The Last Guardian, even including brand new information abut the history of the world.

Finally, there are always WoWWiki and Wowpedia, as well as the youtube channel Nobbel87 https://www.youtube.com/user/Nobbel87 who specializes in videos explaining chunks of the story.

The Warcraft lore is as fascinating as it is a mess of retcons and contradictions, and no one fan remembers every piece of it - and Blizzard definitely doesn't. So don't sweat it too much if it all seems too complicated.

(Anonymous) 2016-07-23 07:33 pm (UTC)(link)
Red Shirt Guy probably remembers most of it.

If you enjoyed clicking on your units in the Warcraft games, there's an early Horde quest in WoW where you have to hit lazy peons to wake them up and get them back to work; the dialog is really familiar.

(Anonymous) 2016-07-25 08:55 am (UTC)(link)
You can also just study the lore and never play the games like me. Look for Nobbel87 channel on Youtube for that. I also recommend Wowpedia instead of WowWiki on this endeavour.