[ SECRET POST #3489 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #3489 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Comments

[fscom]

04. http://i.imgur.com/QjxGVbl.jpg

[(Anonymous)]

It's also kinda annoying when people criticize things you love. Isn't it?

[(Anonymous)]

+1

Christ, we get it, OP. You don't like them. Fine. Now shut the fuck up and let the people who DID like them enjoy them. We don't need your fucking permission.

[(Anonymous)]

Don't most people get used to it as part of, well... living?

[(Anonymous)]

I don't know; in this case I think the trilogy is something that people finished watching either out of obligation or because they felt committed or because they were hoping they'd get better. I didn't really hear people talking about seeing them multiple times, nor do I see a lot of interest in the directors' cuts.

[(Anonymous)]

This secret applies to me, but with the Star Wars prequels and the two movies of the DCEU (Man of Steel and BvS respectfully).

[(Anonymous)]

Obviously the Hobbit movies made money, but they were going to no matter the quality. Just like a movie with the words "Star Wars" in the title is guaranteed to make money. It doesn't mean most audiences particularly loved the movies. Hell, I went to all three Hobbit movies in theaters despite knowing from the first film that I did not like them. They were entertaining enough for a Saturday afternoon at the theater with friends, and I did love LOTR, but I don't really want to watch them again, ever.

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[elaminator]

Honestly, this. (And I even liked the films alright. Or, at least I loved AUJ, and felt pretty 'meh' about the other two, but despite that there were definitely some great scenes in the trilogy, and I'm glad they exist because of that.)

Anytime you have a series as popular or well known, it's going to make money. Just because it made money doesn't mean that all (or even most) fans are particularly happy with the result. Some people go to the movies just to fill an evening, or to be able to voice an informed opinion on it later.

Plus, The Hobbit films weren't enthusiastically welcomed by most the Tolkien fandom, or most people I've spoken to/seen in general. I can't even blame them because a lot of the problems people have with the films are ones I share.

[(Anonymous)]

Reality shows are also wildly popular with mainstream audiences. That doesn't mean they're not derided in fandom.

[(Anonymous)]

And yet no one wanders around butt-hurt, sighing about how they must be the only person in the world who likes Big Brother.

[crossy_woad]

Heh. Good point. Kinda like that when my mother reacts to the slightest criticism (even if she asked one's opinion) with "WELL I GUESS I'M JUST A TERRIBLE PERSON THEN." I guess I just have to learn that she doesn't really WANT my opinion.

In regards to this opinion (I guess I'm the only one who likes it!!), yes, it's a bit of an overreaction!

[(Anonymous)]

After about the third time she did that, I would probably succumb to temptation and agree. "Well, you're really passive-aggressive and you're trying to make me feel guilty for having a different opinion than yours, so... yes, yes you are."

[(Anonymous)]

Unfortunately with these kind of people it either won't have much of an effect or just make them whine more -_-

[(Anonymous)]

Or, you know, they're just tired of people shitting on their interests and hobbies and would like to be able to squee in peace without assholes telling them every reason why they shouldn't.

[ninety6tears]

In most cases it's an exaggeration, yeah, but even a huge box office success can have little to no online fandom who are capable of positive discussion about it, and that can feel lonely.

[(Anonymous)]

Idk...I've never heard a single person say they like them. I've heard people say they were "okay" or "average", but never "good". I don't think they're as popular as you're making them out to be.

[(Anonymous)]

There's a difference between seeing them in theaters once, enjoying them for what they were, and more or less forgetting about them afterward, and liking them enough to want to discuss or see more about them within fandom.

I mean, I get being annoyed at the hyperbole, but in the fandom aspect they might legitimately be in the minority.

[(Anonymous)]

Except for the part where the Hobbit movies have a ridiculously active online fanbase, full of people who love and obsess about the movies, to the point where anyone who claims to be the only person who liked the movies has about as much legitimacy as someone claiming to be the only person who likes Sherlock....

[(Anonymous)]

It's true that fans obsess about the movies, but, speaking as one of those fans myself, and speaking as one who was quite enthusiastically involved with the fandom, barely any of my fellow fans ever actually claimed the last two movies were remotely good, or even satisfying. We obsessed over them because the movies introduced scenes and ideas and characterizations and food for thought that cultivated a really productive and creative explosion of fanon and fanfic and fanart. The movies were GREAT if they were treated as vats of raw material, but as actual movies they were utterly mediocre and a huge disappointing mess.

sa

[(Anonymous)]

^nayrt, btw

[(Anonymous)]

I guess it's like most fannish stuff and it depends on where you go in the fandom. I was never hardcore into the movie fandom, but I dabbled and most of the spaces I played in were pretty positive about the first two movies. Admittedly, most of them found the last movie disappointing, albeit with some redeemable moments.

Honestly, though, people in my cinema actually laughed out loud when Legolas started Mario-jumping the falling rocks during the final battle. The issues with the third movie aren't just Tolkien purist snobbery, and in my experience people in the movie fandom were far more likely to dig for the good bits than anyone else.

[(Anonymous)]

ayrt

For whatever it's worth, I'm not actually in the fandom and most online comments I've seen about the movies in fandom spaces were fairly negative. From that perspective it wouldn't surprise me if there were certain sites/groups where a fan could feel they were in the minority.

I was just trying to get across that widespread knowledge of a certain work still doesn't indicate a huge fandom.

[(Anonymous)]

Well, of course it did well and I know I'm not the only one who liked him but sometimes I feel in the minority at least on this site. I've read the books. My mom grew up as a huge Tolkien fangirl and she's read every book including the Silmarillion several times over and she enjoyed the LotR an Hobbit trilogy immensely. I do remember her intensely hating that old animated Hobbit movie. So all this Tolkien purist elitist bullshit acting like the movies are a personal offense just rings very hollow to me. As if you can't love the books and have them a cherished part of your childhood and also enjoy the movies.

The only complaint I have about The Hobbit trilogy is the last movie was padded too long, but other than that I think all the additions and expansions on the dwarves characters was very welcome.

[(Anonymous)]

Going to see a movie doesn't mean you like it. People went to see them and didn't like. End of story.