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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2008-04-04 05:42 pm

[ SECRET POST #455 ]


⌈ Secret Post #455 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Secrets Left to Post: 0 pages, 00 secrets from Secret Submission Post #065.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 1 2 - broken links ], [ 1 2 3 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 1 2 3 4 - repeat ], [ 1 - wtf ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

[identity profile] srsfnbsns.livejournal.com 2008-04-04 10:09 pm (UTC)(link)
3. You can still cosplay him, just not 100% accurately. And let's fae it, when is any cosplay completely accurate? If you can't bring some whimsy in, then your imagination is sorely lacking.

16. You're certain he is a pokemon. Jiggly-what?

20. Word. I don't want to know what was in your pants after you read my stuff. Fucking ew! Keep it between you and your panties dammit.

30. Funniest part is that the people laughing at fatties probably weigh just as much if not more than the people they're trying to make fun of. Either that or they're anorexic and writing from their laptops in bed where they must stay because if they get out of bed they might pass out from lack of nutrition.

34. But...if I like it it's as perfect as a fairy fart in every way!

43. Don't get your panties in a bunch bitch. They do the same thing with shounen ai and they're pretty much forced to do so. To put up girl or boy love without a warning is just asking for flames. Guess what?! Not everyone wants to read that! So they advertise to people who want it and warn off folks who don't.

49. Nor are most boobs bigger than people's heads or female genitalia magical featureless slits. So much wrong with porny doujin, but hey, sometimes they get it right...every once in a great while.

62. I don't agree with everything he did, but I still like him and appreciate his efforts. He just needs to dislodge the stick in his ass is all. XD

massive fail

[identity profile] myxamorphosis.livejournal.com 2008-04-04 10:37 pm (UTC)(link)
Guess what?! Not everyone wants to read that! So they advertise to people who want it and warn off folks who don't.

I think someone needs to brush up on their reading comprehension skills.

Massive Bitch

(Anonymous) 2008-04-05 01:54 am (UTC)(link)

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[identity profile] lanjelin.livejournal.com 2008-04-04 11:19 pm (UTC)(link)
It's still not all right to put it as a warning. A label, sure - we all like to know what sort of story we're about to read (or not read, as might be the case if it's about something that we're not interested in) - but a warning suggests that people might find something offensive or disturbing. Homo- and bisexuality is neither; those who believe it is are full of fail, prejudice and bigotry, and should certainly not be humoured.

Warning tags = SRS FN BSNS!

[identity profile] srsfnbsns.livejournal.com 2008-04-04 11:30 pm (UTC)(link)
I think people are being way too sensitive about the language here. People putting shoujo ai behind a warning label as opposed to just a simple tag aren't doing it to be insulting. They don't mean "PACK UP YOUR KIDS AND RUN TO THE HILLS THE FUCKING FAGS ARE COMING TO EAT YOUR BABIES!!!"

It's only offensive if you choose to see it that way. Considering that the intentions behind it are just simple courtesy, I think it's pretty rude of people to start accusing those who post this way of being bigoted jerks.

Re: Warning tags = SRS FN BSNS!

[identity profile] lanjelin.livejournal.com 2008-04-05 12:05 am (UTC)(link)
People putting shoujo ai behind a warning label as opposed to just a simple tag aren't doing it to be insulting.

Yeah, I know, but it's still a sign that they might, and other people might see it as abnormal (in a bad way). It's one of these subconscious acts of (very mild, but still) bigotry that I think people would stop doing if they thought about what it meant for a little while.

Words have power, and they shape the way we think. Completely normalising homo-and bisexuality in writing first will train the mind in seeing it that way (the opposite is true as well).

It's only offensive if you choose to see it that way. Considering that the intentions behind it are just simple courtesy, I think it's pretty rude of people to start accusing those who post this way of being bigoted jerks.

No, it really is offensive, despite the intentions (which I still think are important, because I really don't believe the warnings are put up to be insulting at all). It's labelling homo-and bisexuality as somehow deviant.

I think the warnings are mostly because of old habits, and plain just not thinking about it, though, not that the posters themselves are bigots. They're just slightly shaped by a society so full of bigotry that some of it is still seems normal.

Heh, sorry about the long-windedness.

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[identity profile] starless-watch.livejournal.com 2008-04-05 02:03 am (UTC)(link)
I agree. I think that pairings (and genres like fluff/angst) need to be labeled as pairings and genres, not warnings. Warnings carry an unfortunate value judgement. "HARDCORE BDSM SEXX0RZ!"? Okay, warning. "Boysnuggling"? I should hope that fandom has moved beyond that. Not in the mood for slash? I'll mention the pairings in my info section, but I won't call it a warning.

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[identity profile] lanjelin.livejournal.com 2008-04-05 06:40 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, that's what I mean exactly.

re: 20

(Anonymous) 2008-04-05 12:18 am (UTC)(link)
I'm so glad that there're folk who get what I was talking about. Thanks, dude.