[ SECRET POST #3493 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #3493 ⌋

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Comments

[otakugal15]

Wait...if he isn't redeemed...Han's death means nothing?

That doesn't make sense. If he IS redeemed, then Han's death was a waste.

It was a waste regardless!! But that other meaning is complete BS.

[diet_poison]

If he IS redeemed, then Han's death was a waste.

I think that argument hinges on Han's last attempt to talk to him, and/or his death, being part of what redeems him.

However, maybe it's just because I want something darker, but I personally in the camp of Han's death being tragic and wasteful (I love the guy, but) and Kylo not being redeemed. And Chewie killing him. That last bit may be a niche request, but it would be my preference. Rey doing the deed would also be okay.

[otakugal15]

Oh yeah, I'm am so in the camp of wanting him to stay the evil, unredeemed little shit he is.

Of course, I am forever salty that he killed Han. You can't get me past that.

Though if Rey kills him, I'm good with that, too.

[(Anonymous)]

The only reason I hold out that he might be redeemed is because his mother said she sensed good in him. Maybe Luke or Leia can reach out to him since they knew him since the beginning, but it won't be Rey like the shippers want.

I don't understand people who say redemption is impossible despite knowing what happened with Anakin. Anakin killed children, imprisoned/tortured his daughter for info, and choked his pregnant wife... but he still got a redemption via death ending.

[otakugal15]

The reason why Anakin was different is that he was trying to do what he thought was right from the GET GO. And the Jedi saw his feelings and emotions as a weekness and never truly helped him sort that out. They always treated him like an outsider and never fully trusted him. And he knew that and did what he could regardless.

He never had a chance to sort out his feelings and resentments over being a slave for the first 9 years of his life before being thrust into a very structured environment that basically sent him and his master out on various, dangerous missions all the time. It's why he was a little hellion for Obi-Wan to train. He was never really allowed to find himself.

Yes, he went overboard. But ultimately, he went with Sidious because he thought he was doing the right thing. His actions were terrible and he paid for them, but you saw what pushed him there and I can be sympathetic to his plight.

Kylo? He's not doing that. He may have been manipulated from a young age, they haven't really confirmed that. But he knows right from wrong, grew up with three people who did their best to raise him and teach him right, and he still decideds to join Snoke. He still decides to join them and murder innocent people. And he, too, killed kids. Luke's students most likely weren't all teenagers.

And then he goes and kills Han.

If he had good in him? Then that was right before he killed Han. Leia may have felt that BEFORE then. But after? I have a feeling she not only felt Han's death, but the light leaving Kylo.

[(Anonymous)]

Fair interpretation, but given how unhinged Kylo Ren was afterward, it seems more likely that whatever peace Kylo Ren thought he would get from killing his father, it only worsened his torment.