[ SECRET POST #3496 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #3496 ⌋

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[fscom]

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[kallanda_lee]

I don't relate this to trans people. Like, at all.


(I do think they're awful movies, though)

[(Anonymous)]

I don't either.

As a cis woman I find Tyler Perry badly dressing up as a woman kind of mildly insulting when he could just hire a funny woman, though.

I don't really care enough to...care, though.

[(Anonymous)]

yeah, I think it's kind of a stretch to call them transphobic. they're just really bad movies.

[(Anonymous)]

They encourage people to laugh at less than passing transwomen. Man in a dress is funny, so transwoman who is not 100% passable and living in stealth must be funny and is an open target for public mockery. Transphobia, racism, homophobia, Islamaphobia, etc, what they all have in common is that something doesn't have to be directly attacking them to be harmful, it just needs to normalize the public sentiment that they are a target for mockery and abuse.

[(Anonymous)]

+1

[(Anonymous)]

I would argue that Medea (and perhaps the woman in Norbit) are passing. The "humor" in those movies is more the outlandish behavior of the characters than and less humor in the fact a man is playing a woman.

But I do see (and agree with) your overall point.

[(Anonymous)]

If anything the targets would be transvestites, not transsexuals/transgendered people. Your argument makes no sense.

[(Anonymous)]

Mmmm, no.

[(Anonymous)]

oh my god shut up.

[(Anonymous)]

I'm not familiar with these, so I can't really comment, but, NB: "trans people" is more correct (and polite) than "transpeople." (Same goes for "trans woman," "trans man," etc.)

[(Anonymous)]

...Those are the exact same words though.

[(Anonymous)]

this is not a thing the community has anything like agreement on, plz ignore

[(Anonymous)]

I just recently rewatched Soapdish and forgot how utterly transphobic it is at the end. Ruined the whole movie for me.

[(Anonymous)]

Not as transphobic as Little Britain or Mrs Brown's Boys though. So many hate attacks linked to those shows, especially the first.

[(Anonymous)]

Do you have a source for that?

[sparrow_lately]

Well, the idea is that the longstanding comedic trope is the problem (bc it conditions people to see "person not conforming to the gender binary/person I read as gender A 'dressed' as gender B" and think comedy, ridiculous, etc.). It's not an active anti-trans thing, it's just a part of a system that demoralizes and trivializes the experiences of trans people.

[dahli]

Oh? I never associated this with trans people but I do agree they are terrible movies. Though I guiltily watch White Chicks whenever its on TV.

Except Norbit. It's a horrible movie and it should BURN DVD HELL.

[(Anonymous)]

The best cross dressing movies are Victor/Victoria, Mrs. Doubtfire, Tootsie and Just One Of The Guys.

These movies are bad though and I don't see anything related to the trans community, if not at all. Just a bunch of screwball comedies involving crossdressing or in Norbit's case, an actor playing an over the top female character for the sake of a laugh. The Madea plays/movies did it better in that department though.

[(Anonymous)]

I... actually really like White Chicks, ngl. It really reminds me a lot of Some Like It Hot, just modernized.

[(Anonymous)]

I'm sorry, but since when did cross dressing become synonymous with expressing transexuality? Please don't leave transvestites out in a ditch somewhere just because transexualism has become the hot topic du jour. A lot of really awesome transvestite tradition and transvestite humor has nothing to do with transexuals.

[grausam]

I can't find the post, but we had this discussion before, possibly about the boxtroll movie. a trans anon on f!s outright said that her attackers were quoting traditional British crossdressing skits at them.

idk whether all these movies perpetuate that, but jokes about the crossdressing man being "disgusting", that they lie to people with this disguise, or showing men entreat on women's space with sleazy intentions were the norm in the ones I had to see. Trans issues are still obscure enough that these comedy tropes will be conflated with them.

[(Anonymous)]

There needs to be like a buddy cop movie where one partner realizes they're trans when they have to go undercover, and the other partner (who's legit crossdressing) has to help them through it.

[alexi_lupin]

I was so surprised at how good Tyler Perry was in Gone Girl, it was totally different to anything else I've ever seen from him.

[(Anonymous)]

That's more transvestite than transgender, and there's a long tradition of transvestism in theatre (pantomime etc).