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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2016-07-30 03:45 pm

[ SECRET POST #3496 ]


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(Anonymous) 2016-07-30 08:08 pm (UTC)(link)
how is that fanart? if it's their own OC, isn't it just regular art?

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[personal profile] babydraco 2016-07-30 08:13 pm (UTC)(link)
Yes. And only in fandom is that considered a bad thing. Anywhere else it's just...you know...normal...

(Anonymous) 2016-07-30 08:25 pm (UTC)(link)
I know. Its utterly ridiculous how much originality has been stigmatized because "new things are scary. I cant have anything unfamiliar in my fanworks. Only Canon"

[personal profile] cbrachyrhynchos 2016-07-30 10:35 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh, goodness, don't introduce OC bashers to sim stories communities.

(Anonymous) 2016-07-30 10:40 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh i wont.

Though i can only imagine they'll be so overwhelmed by all the people "arrogantly" heaving the nerve to think they can just create things and not doing it by the right standard that theyll just leave.
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[personal profile] ninety6tears 2016-07-30 10:41 pm (UTC)(link)
It's because a lot of people are working off the assumption that fanworks are crap that's easy to produce so obviously the people coming from that hobby are gonna suck at making interesting original characters, and they talk about that like "I'm in fandom for characters I already care about" when they would usually be open to new characters being introduced in canon. Which is a totally fine way to avoid reading crappy fics that are a little too self-indulgent for their taste, but it would be nice if people would just admit they're using a flawed but decent mode of screening for quality rather than pretending it's absolutely impossible for someone to create an OC that would hold their interest.

But on the semantics of the above comment, if there's something in the character design that is recognizably from a given canon, I'd say it's still fanart.
Edited 2016-07-30 22:43 (UTC)

(Anonymous) 2016-07-30 10:51 pm (UTC)(link)
Agreed

And true about fanart but i consider it fan art including an oc not fanart OF an OC.

I cant help but feel like OPs wording was delibertly written to make it sound as if the artist is a fan of their OC rather than theyre a fan of something who created a fancharacter for it.

[personal profile] cbrachyrhynchos 2016-07-30 11:17 pm (UTC)(link)
I think a lot of people here are working off the assumption that fanwork = TV/movie fic. There's not much point in doing Sherlock OC fic, because that's just 21st century England for the most part, and the show isn't that good.

On the other hand, if you're doing MMO roleplay, creating your own original characters and posting background fic is encouraged. And we have (including myself, although I no longer do social gaming) a pretty strong ethic of criticizing (or at least avoiding) badly developed, lore-breaking, and godmodding characters. Writing Thrall's half-troll daughter doesn't get you very far.

The Star Trek and Star Wars franchises have always been "big universe" settings where fans were encouraged to imagine stories happening elsewhere. So sure, everything from "Bim Goten, Cloud City Accountant" to "Ensign Revar of the USS Octavia Butler" (created just now) is fair game. Is it well-written? Is it creative? Does it make interesting use of lore?

Fallout and Mass Effect should be "big universe" settings IMO as well. I wouldn't mind a good Fallout story set outside of Chicago with factions battling for control of Fermilab, and implied events like the reconstruction of Tuchanka and Rannoch should be fair game.

EDIT: While I think Axanar is doing bad things for the community in using a commercial crowdsourced model and triggering a legal fight, otherwise I think its a pretty reasonable fanwork.
Edited 2016-07-30 23:22 (UTC)

[personal profile] cbrachyrhynchos 2016-07-30 11:38 pm (UTC)(link)
Now that I think about it, a story about an accountant coming in to the newly annexed Cloud City and trying to negotiate between the miners and the Imperial tax code would be brilliant.
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[personal profile] fishnchips 2016-07-30 08:50 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm not even sure if OP means their OC inserts into a pre-existing fandom or all original characters...

(Anonymous) 2016-08-01 02:06 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, I was wondering that too....
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[personal profile] otakugal15 2016-07-31 01:40 am (UTC)(link)
Lol, I wonder how they even handle fandoms that are centered around big mmos, like World of Warcraft and FFXIV.

CANON OCs GALORE.