[ SECRET POST #3496 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #3496 ⌋

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

*eyerolls into the sun*

"If you put effort into your own characters make them original. Fanworks mean you're only allowed to use other people's ideas. No creating your own."

I respect peoples prefrences. But the bad "advice" people like to give writers based on preferences is so tiring.

[silverr]

Personally, if I'm reading fanfic at all it's because I want more of the characters that already exist in the fandom, not because I want to read about the long-lost daughter of canon characters.

[(Anonymous)]

Well yes but advising/telling other people to change their writing to fit one's own preferences is bullshit is what im getting at.

[mrs_don_draper]

I'm not telling anyone to do anything. All I said was that I back button out.

[(Anonymous)]

"I think if youre going to have an extensivly developed original character just write an original story" sounds like it. Worse its piss poor logic. So only shallowly developed original characters should be in a fanfic?

The logic that you can only put so much work into something or you need to make an entirely new world and shit for it is garbage.

Sometimes you can feel theres a niche canon didnt cover and create something to cover it. Creating a whole seperate story for it is pointless and not what the author wanted to do in the first place. Its kind of annoying to constantly hear "well why dont you just create a new story for this?"

Honestly i dont even care about the backbuttoning thing. I just hate that "suggestion" with a passion. So you dont want to read about it, big deal backbutton away. But dont assume that an author just wants to create original stuff for the sake of creating original stuff. Sometimes they have a reason for that particular character whether you see the need for it or not.

Ps: Im not a named user.

[mrs_don_draper]

"So only shallowly developed original characters should be in a fanfic?"

Personally, I don't think any original characters should be in fanfic in 99% of fics. Like, sometimes you need a doctor to call someone and give a test result or you need to reference an ex-partner. I get that. But if that character is involved in more than like five lines of a story, then I don't want to read it.

[(Anonymous)]

Well agree to disagree I guess. Some people like a little new ground in their fanfic and some like all canon. Both are valid ways to write fic.

[(Anonymous)]

+1

Personally I love casefic/monster of the week, but if somebody likes shippy fics, I can see how there would be less room for OCs.

[ketita]

See, I'm on the fence with this. Because on one hand I agree - I'm in fanfic for the characters I know and love.
But as someone who writes plotty fics, it is actually impossible not to include some OCs, and sometimes they do need more presence than just five lines of story. If you're going to have plot that wasn't in the canon, you're going to need characters to help support that plot.
In that situation, I think that the way to go about it is to try and keep the focus of the story on the canon characters and not derail it into becoming really the OCs story.

[(Anonymous)]

My disagreement here is because you don't like it, you say things like "I don't think any original characters should be in fanfic in 99% of fics"

It's not in 99% of fics, who knows what ratio of fics it actually is, but whatever ratio it is is because the author's wanted to go that angle. Continue to back button out of it, but you're acting like they shouldn't exist at all based on your personal preferences. That's where people's backs are getting up.

Just let the people who enjoy writing or reading or drawing OC's have their little sandpit without acting like it's some kind of illegal bad part of fandom that shouldn't exist except as the tiny 1%.

[mimi-sardinia.livejournal.com]

I like OCs who starts out as one line, then a few chapters later they get another line, and a couple of lines few more chapters after, until they go from a one-line character to a major secondary character by the end of the story. They establish a familiarity by filling in small roles like your doctor example, and coming back again and again as a minor familiar face so you aren't getting another new OC.

[silverr]

This is not something that I would tell people to do. Even if they ask, "Why didn't you comment on this?" or "Why did you unfollow me?" unless pressed to be brutally honest I would only ever tell them that the content didn't interest me.

[(Anonymous)]

I know i was mostly talking about what the user above me seemed to be saying. I find "i dont know why they dont do this inatead" suggestions irritating.

I dont do that because its not what im interesting in writing.

I honestly find unwanted suggesuons more irritating than " no ones going to read it"

[mimi-sardinia.livejournal.com]

Yeah, I don't want long-lost daughters, I just want the messenger or random guardsman who pops up with one line here, one line there, a couple of line a few chapters later, help out the main characters with a task, maybe insert a pithy point in a major scene.

They remain a secondary or even tertiary character, but they grow in little steps, and act as support for the canon characters.

Unless it's roleplay or a protagonist for a Create You Own Character RPG computer game.