case: ([ Kyouya; No one asked. ])
Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2008-04-06 05:53 pm

[ SECRET POST #457 ]


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Re: 54, 55

[identity profile] etherealtsuki.livejournal.com 2008-04-08 09:11 am (UTC)(link)
Except the fact that you're ignoring that there's no English equivalent for most honorifics (you know, actually research on this like I did back in college. Yes, I actually researched it to understand honorifics better and part curiosity). I think you're downplaying most of these translators' skill (who have to have very fluent in both languages in the first place and yes, they usually test them out before hiring them [that I know that because I was interested of becoming a professional translator at one point]. Hell, a good number of translators are Japanese natives and have a linguistics background). Not mentioning there is usually a team helping out. The fact that even most Japanese literature would just drop the honorifics altogether, and some use the "everyone refers first name" route tells you something about why there aren't replacements for them.

I'm not making uneducated biases as much your making assumptions that it can be done in a "creative" way without even giving examples, actually endorsing using archaic words that you have to end up explaining anyway (and they have to really archaic going past Old English because there was very, very few outside royal titles and yes I had to read a good amount of literature in Old English), ignoring the cultural differences in both English and Japan and how that's reflected in the structure of the language (more specifically in honorifics), and ignoring that there has been efforts but they failed because it was more awkward than simply leaving it be and give a detail explanation on it and also give a glimpse on Japanese culture since the language is pretty crucial to it anyway.

If they want to do a more accurate translation, it's best to leave them in and explain their significance. They can leave them out if they so please, but dear god, don't replace them with awkward words either.

Nice calling me a fanbrat though seeing that you can debate without namecalling (or knowing what a fanbrat really is, I hope you don't call anyone who disagree with you that). Really a pity. I tired of trying to convince someone who refuse to listen why either.