[ SECRET POST #3510 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #3510 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[Stephen King]


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[John Green]


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[American Gods]


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[Charlie Hunnam in King Arthur: Legend of the Sword]


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[Penn & Teller: Fool Us]


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[Steven Universe]


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[Questionable Content]


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[Ghostbusters 2016]











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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

Shadow is explicitly mixed race but explicitly not visibly black. Like OP said, nobody asks an obvious black guy whether they're black or not.

[(Anonymous)]

"nobody asks an obvious black guy whether they're black or not."

Not sure I agree with this, either. You'd think it'd be true, but I'm 100% Chinese, not of mixed heritage. I look very visibly Chinese. But people still ask. Now, I'm sure they have a variety of reasons for asking, but... they still ask.

[(Anonymous)]

Are they asking, "Are you 100% Chinese?" or are they asking, "Are you Chinese?" because a lot of non-Asians have difficulty telling some Asians apart (ie Japanese/Chinese/Korean/Taiwanese/Vietnamese etc).

[(Anonymous)]

I get it all. People ask if I'm Asian, if I'm Japanese, if I'm Chinese. They generally don't ask about any other Asian cultures and my theory is that those are the only ones they've really heard of.

[(Anonymous)]

1. Are you in the US?
2. Do they ask if you're Chinese, or if you're asian?

[(Anonymous)]

1. Yes.
2. Both, though not at the same time.

[(Anonymous)]

Where the heck do you live? Is it somewhere where everyone's never seen a real live asian person before? How can that even be a question?

That being said, a prison guard who's dealt with black inmates forever, asking if a black guy is black, is even less fathomable than that.

[(Anonymous)]

Midwest, and the question generally comes from white people. It's not so much that they've never seen an Asian person, but they may not be personally acquainted with any. They realize I'm not white, but they don't know what I am.

[(Anonymous)]

I can buy that, I've known people who grew up in small town America full of white people that had never seen an asian person in the flesh before until they went to college or something.

But again, multiple people from all over the country not knowing whether someone that looks like Ricky Whittle is black or not by looking at him? Is that believable to you?

[(Anonymous)]

Well, I have a couple thoughts about this. The first is that what *I* think and find believable is going to be different than what other people think and find believable. That's the point I was trying to make by relating my experiences. I find it pretty incredible that people would look at me and not be sure I'm Asian, but my background is different than the people who ask me that question.

Second, I had to google images of Whittle. He does not look white. To me, he looks black but possibly mixed race. But again, that's me. I don't think my perceptions of race are representative of the average American.

[(Anonymous)]

"I find it pretty incredible that people would look at me and not be sure I'm Asian, but my background is different than the people who ask me that question."

That's what I'm saying, and for an author to have put so many people asking whether he's different things in the book, it must mean that he doesn't look obviously like one race or another. Unless the author is gathering up incredible people with incredible backgrounds, all of whom cannot recognize varying races when they see them.

If it were one person asking, I could buy what you say here. Since it's multiple people asking him whether he's different things - Native, gypsy, black, others, it's not reasonable to assume all of them simply can't at all recognize the race they're asking about. That's too much coincidence, from a writing perspective.

[(Anonymous)]

I'm not sure I'm getting my point across very well. My point is that I look absolutely, 100% Chinese, and people still question my race. That's why I don't find it impossible to think that perhaps Shadow might look unambiguously black, but people still question his race. In my situation, the reason for why people question my race doesn't lie with my appearance, it's more to do with their ignorance or lack of exposure to POCs, or the fact that they're simply not 100% certain. As for getting the same question from multiple people... well, that's happened to me. So again, I can't say that's impossible or even improbable. I encounter plenty of people who aren't very good at identifying what race I am from my appearance, even though I think I'm pretty unambiguously Chinese.

[(Anonymous)]

But again, multiple people from all over the country not knowing whether someone that looks like Ricky Whittle is black or not by looking at him? Is that believable to you?

Yes. I'm black, when I first saw him on The 100 I did NOT realise he was part black until I read about the wank between him and the 100's showrunner during the Clexa meltdowns. Like, he looks different in the above picture than he did on the show, but I'm really surprised people would guess "part black" just by looking at him, when I would've guessed dark-skinned white, or part Hispanic.

[(Anonymous)]

+1

Hispanic was my guess from Google images/The 100, so this entire secret thread is enlightening.

[(Anonymous)]

I didn't know he was black! DDD: