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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2016-08-13 03:07 pm

[ SECRET POST #3510 ]


⌈ Secret Post #3510 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[Stephen King]


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[John Green]


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[American Gods]


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[Charlie Hunnam in King Arthur: Legend of the Sword]


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[Penn & Teller: Fool Us]


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[Steven Universe]


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[Questionable Content]


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[Ghostbusters 2016]











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Re: queerbaiting?

(Anonymous) 2016-08-13 10:45 pm (UTC)(link)
here's an example out of the book I'm reading right now:

-the female protagonist is at a masked ball in the 20s. the narrator foreshadows that this will be a fateful night, that she is about to meet someone who will make the course of her life harder, but worth it in a bittersweet way.

-she trips and falls into the arms of a person. this person has a name that could either identify them as female or male. I'm expecting a male lover at this point, because she has a husband.

-it turns out to be a women. she is described with a level of detail that was only used for plot relevant beauty (her sister) and for the introduction of her husband. the women is crossdressing and part of progressive women rights group. the narrator compares her to Marlene Dietrich, an actual bisexual women.

-but no! they're only FRIENDS. and the narrator repeats this term over the next few pages, because the author knew what kind of expectation they were creating.

at this point I put the book down. it was such a blatant bait and switch moment that it was kind of staggering.

Re: queerbaiting?

(Anonymous) 2016-08-13 10:53 pm (UTC)(link)
The fact that the narrator has a husband wasn't relevant then?

Re: queerbaiting?

(Anonymous) 2016-08-13 11:11 pm (UTC)(link)
How would it be relevant?

Both bisexuality, and fiction about non-monogamous relationships, exist.

Re: queerbaiting?

(Anonymous) 2016-08-13 11:47 pm (UTC)(link)
Bisexuality? Exist in fiction? Come on, we all know better than that. And unless a main character's gay affair is going to be the central plot of the book, them having an opposite sex spouse is a tell from the beginning that they're straight, end of story.

Re: queerbaiting?

(Anonymous) 2016-08-14 02:30 am (UTC)(link)
DA

So if I were writing a story about a protagonist who, having up until that point only been with the opposite sex, discovers their bisexuality through a same sex romantic encounter, I would be misleading the readers because I would have already established my character as 'straight' from the start? How else would these stories go?

ayrt

(Anonymous) 2016-08-13 11:36 pm (UTC)(link)
I'd be surprised if they made up in a romantic way. at this point in the story she sees her husband for only 3 weeks every year.

plus the whole failure of their marriage was set up in a way that makes her extremely sympathethic, even if it isn't his fault.

everything points to her meeting /someone/ to cheat with. the narrator is not the protagonist btw, but her pseudo omnipresent granddaughter looking back.