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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2016-08-20 03:24 pm

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Re: political pet peeves

(Anonymous) 2016-08-20 10:19 pm (UTC)(link)
But those things are true as statistical generalities. Of course there are liberals everywhere, and there's a lot of stupid condescending talk, but it is factually the case that people in rural areas are more likely to be conservative, as are white people who don't have college degrees (which isn't a perfect proxy for working-class, but it does have a lot of crossover). Those things are statistically true. And not, like, in a small way, either - rural areas are in general overwhelmingly conservative, and whites without college degrees are Trump's strongest demographic by a fairly significant margin, IIRC.

Again, none of this justifies the kind of stupid condescending class trash that certain liberals like to throw out. Nor, just on a basic human level, should it lead us to make any assumptions about particular individual people, who should always be approached as people. But I don't see that as a reason to ignore the basic fact that people who live in cities are overwhelmingly more likely to be liberal than people who live in the country.

Re: political pet peeves

(Anonymous) 2016-08-20 11:31 pm (UTC)(link)
AYRT

Like noted, I agree that there is some truth to a lot of those assumptions and generalities. The state I currently live in, that I was born in and raised in for a good portion of my life, is probably the most liberal of all the places I lived. Colorado was more "purple", but Nebraska, Wyoming, and South Dakota were definitely very, very red.

My issue was mainly with the very sort of condescension you noted, as well as this bizarre need for media and politicians to try and pit the coasts/cities against the middle/rural people. I'm just tired of the "real America" thing, or "we're more moral than the liberal coasts" thing (whatever that even means), or the way people tend to assume negative things about anyone who isn't college-educated or wealthy, and so on, and just wanted to rant about all that annoying stuff a bit :p.

Like you rightly said, though, the best way to combat that is to try and see people as legit human beings with valid complaints. Another anon who replied to my initial post had a good point, too, that just because someone doesn't see eye to eye with you (general "you") politically, that doesn't mean they don't have ANY valid arguments or concerns worth addressing.