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⌈ Secret Post #3518 ⌋

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[Star Trek: Voyager]

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[Voltron]

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[Up the Women]

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[Digimon Adventure 02]

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[Assassin's Creed: Syndicate]

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[The Sims]

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[The X-Files]

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[Letterkenny, Stewart/Katy]

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ayrt

did I ever use the word "appropriate"? I'd be ecstatic if an animated show had a teen boy romance. I'm talking about the attitudes that lead to harassing VAs on twitter. The Johnlock shippers who harass Moffat and Gatiss. Most people are perfectly happy shipping without buying into that mentality.

I might be misreading you, but what I'm talking about is that you seem to be espousing an attitude of "This ship will never happen because it's gay and in a kid's show".

you shouldn't harass creators because you should never harass creators, and you shouldn't treat ships as life and death because you shouldn't. but, like, the idea that you gotta keep your head down because the ship isn't going to be canon because of homophobia is bullshit to me.

Why? It's the truth. Tons of writers of kids' shows have wanted to put gay characters in their shows but they weren't allowed to because of the networks saying no because ratings, which comes down to ratings being hurt because of parents not letting their kids watch shows with teh gayz. Get your head out of your ideal world and accept that how things should be are not the way they are.

The problem I have isn't that the point is unrealistic. The problem that I have is that I don't think that your point that fans should just accept that as the way of the world, when we both agree there's no legitimate reason for it to be that way, is wrong. I'm not saying that anyone should pressure the creators, and no one should expect it to change overnight, but objecting to that way of doing things is legitimate and valid to me.

from thread OP: Just don't. Let the writers come up with their own love interests this time

I don't agree with this. I think people can ship! People rightly think Voltron could possibly have a canon queer character and I don't think people should keep their head down if their ship is gay at all, but I can see why you would read it that way.
I just get exasperated by people obsessed with how their ship is sooo canon, probably a hold over from interacting with the destiel believers (so, not about it being a kids show). Everything about the work should be taken as a clue to where the creators are going with the series. The genre, the tone, the plot, the network it airs on. If the characters barely talk and you're calling homophobia when people dismiss your ship, or the creators admit they don't know what you're talking about, I think there's a viewing comprehension issue.

Yeah, I 100% agree people get crazy about it, and people really need to be better at disentangling representation and shipping.

But I'm just saying, if the argument is "popular cartoons can have het romances but not gay romances and that's the way of the world and you should just deal with it" - well, fuck that.

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