ext_82219 ([identity profile] shahni.livejournal.com) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2008-04-08 02:24 pm

[ Secret Post #459 ]


⌈ Secret Post #459 ⌋

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[identity profile] scrawled.livejournal.com 2008-04-09 12:32 am (UTC)(link)
Okay, okay, I'm late to the party but everyone disagreeing with 56 ... she's not my favorite character, I have other favorites. That doesn't mean I dislike her but it doesn't mean I fangirl her either. But um everyone disagreeing with her being strong care to explain why she's not in your honest opinion? No, really. I'm interested!
pikabot: (doctor lumos)

Re: 56

[personal profile] pikabot 2008-04-09 12:35 am (UTC)(link)
Better question: what's so strong about her? All she seems to do is acquire powers that worked in one fight and then never again, get (understandably) punked in Soul Society, and then get kidnapped for Hueco Mundo. And pine for Ichigo's fjords in between. I'm not seeing an overwhelming amount of strength in there.

Re: 56

[identity profile] scrawled.livejournal.com 2008-04-09 12:39 am (UTC)(link)
There are different types of strength, as someone said (actually on here) to a secret posted that was an opposite of 56 a few weeks ago. It's not all about gaining powers and kicking ass, sometimes being there for people and loving people is a greater strength than having a big sword.

What I find I like about her is that she ISN'T physically strong, yet wants to fight and work as hard as the other characters. This is what I like about Rukia as well. Rukia = not that physically and spiritually strong, yet her strength comes from other sources.

Sometimes inner strength and courage are just as good. Maybe not in a fight, but in the long run.
pikabot: (clobberin)

Re: 56

[personal profile] pikabot 2008-04-09 12:41 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, and she's all well and fine for that, but she's not really anything special. Pretty much the entire cast of Bleach does that. She's not a weak character but she certainly doesn't qualify as the 'strongest character I've ever seen' unless you've not seen very many characters.

Re: 56

[identity profile] scrawled.livejournal.com 2008-04-09 12:44 am (UTC)(link)
I also agree that she isn't THE strongest character, which I did point in my first comment [or at least meant to/thought that came through] but that's really no reason for anyone to think she's weak. I hear weak to describe her constantly, if not here then elsewhere, and that interpretation just makes me roll my eyes.
pikabot: (classy lady)

Re: 56

[personal profile] pikabot 2008-04-09 12:48 am (UTC)(link)
Oh, OK, I read your post as 'people disagreeing with secret 56, explain yourselves'. Because she's not a weak character, but I do disagree with secret 56, because she's not particularly noteworthy in that strength.

(I honestly think the prize should go to Nico Robin of One Piece just for surviving what she did, and at such an age. Physically and emotionally although it DID leave her sort of messed up)

Re: 56

[identity profile] scrawled.livejournal.com 2008-04-09 12:53 am (UTC)(link)
:) I think one of the prizes can go to Dr. Girlfriend from Venture Brothers because to be honest, she is one of the most intelligent, savvy, in-control-and-sexy and amazing characters in the entire series. And also could kick your ass in hand-to-hand combat and doesn't NEED a man, yet sticks by her own. <3___<3 Has the pants, but wears a tiny skirt. I love her.
pikabot: (revenge!)

Re: 56

[personal profile] pikabot 2008-04-09 01:05 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, Doctor Girlfriend is pretty rocking.

Actually, now that I think of it, a third prize should go to Nami, One Piece's other main female character. And Vivi, the former one. God, Oda is so much better at creating strong female characters than some people

Re: 56

[identity profile] scrawled.livejournal.com 2008-04-09 01:06 am (UTC)(link)
JESUS CHRIST, IAWTC. I cannot read Naruto for that reason. I tried!
pikabot: (porno)

Re: 56

[personal profile] pikabot 2008-04-09 01:08 am (UTC)(link)
I read it entirely for the supporting cast. The female characters over there aren't quite as miserable failures as Sakura, and it contains ROCK LEE. But oh my god, the sexism coming off of his treatment of the female lead was palpable, and I'm usually very oblivious to that sort of thing.

Re: 56

[identity profile] sir-hellsing.livejournal.com 2008-04-09 02:33 am (UTC)(link)
I think both of them are strong, but aren't, say Youko Nakajima (The Twelve Kingdoms) in terms of development and inner growth, strength, etc.

But hay, shounen...
cyanglow: tgcf screencap (Default)

Re: 56

[personal profile] cyanglow 2008-04-09 01:56 am (UTC)(link)
Answering honestly, and honestly not trying to be an asshole. My first thought after reading the secret was "What? Next to Yuzu I would consider her the weakest, and Yuzu has the excuse of being a small child with no special powers." But I was also thinking strictly along the lines of physical/fighting strength, not say, emotional strength. And after reading the other comments in this thread, I guess maybe the OP meant some kind of strength other than physical? Still, I'm not seeing as much emotional strength in her as other characters (Rukia for one).

Like the person above, I don't really dislike her, but I don't see the big deal about her either. *shrug*
cyanglow: tgcf screencap (Default)

Re: 56

[personal profile] cyanglow 2008-04-09 02:53 am (UTC)(link)
Also (replying to myself so as to not spam anyone's inbox), did I just dream that scene when Orihime admitted to Rangiku that she wants to be as strong as Rukia (i.e. acknowledging she is weaker)? Granted, Rukia is a lot older, but that's also kind of a point? Orihime is still only a 16 year old human, and she's not done growing. If she's "the strongest" where does that leave everyone else, and what more does she have to work toward?

/tl;dr