[ SECRET POST #3522 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #3522 ⌋

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[Supernatural]


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[Miss Fisher's Murder Mysteries]


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[Great British Bake Off, series 5]






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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

The books are a writhing mass of suck, character-wise. Dottie, you are Super Catholic but our introduction to you is you waiting to STAB A MAN, so...

Of course, TV Dot is exactly as Catholic as the storyline requires her to be. The handling of Hugh's conversion pre-marriage is one fo the few major missteps I think the show made. :-\

[(Anonymous)]

I thought the books were quite good, actually. They're different than the TV show, but Miss Fisher's character is pretty much the same. Dot's character is more feisty in the books, but that's not necessarily a bad thing. I also see nothing particularly conflicting about being a Catholic who's willing to engage in violence under a particular set of circumstances. Remember, Dot was sexually assaulted by the son of the woman she worked for. Not only had he attacked her and attempted to rape her, but his actions had gotten her fired from a position that was supporting herself and her family. It's clear in the book that she's gone a bit around the bend, but then who wouldn't?

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Yeah, Dot's in a terrible position when we first meet her. I don't think her reacting those ways in those specific circumstance is at all incompatible with her being a faithful Catholic.

[(Anonymous)]

Which is true. My objection is more that it's... one of the straight-out-the-gate examples of the characters being whatever is convenient for the storyline, with little regard for anything else. It's a chronic problem in the books, for me; each character is a handful of poorly-assembled tropes, and even those are thrown out the window when convenient. The show is guilty of this with Hugh--he's always as competent/sexist at the storyline requires--but it's practically everyone with the books.

[(Anonymous)]

I'm familiar with the convention you're referring to where characters' personalities change out of convenience, but I'm not seeing that in the books so far. Dot's first appearance in the book series were under unusual circumstances, ones where you can imagine even a relatively docile Catholic girl might be ready to fight back against the man who not only attacked her, but has endangered the welfare of her entire family who relies on her wages. That's serious business in that era, with no job and more importantly, no references, that family has significantly damaged her chances of earning a respectable living. Later on, once her position with Miss Fisher is secure, her personality arc settles down to a fairly predictable one. She's clearly more conservative than Miss Fisher, but she admires her employer and her loyalty is, understandably, to the eccentric lady who cared about her in her time of need and gave her a good job.

In the TV series, Hugh clearly has difficulty wrapping his head around the non-traditional aspects of Dottie's job and gender roles, but only as it applies to her. Note he has no problem accepting Miss Fisher in her unique capacity as a female private investigator. But at the same time, Hugh loves Dottie and he IS proud of her accomplishments and cleverness, so he deals with his preconceived notions of how a woman ought to be behave. Again, I don't really see that as being an inconsistent arc in terms of logical character development.