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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2016-08-29 06:48 pm

[ SECRET POST #3526 ]


⌈ Secret Post #3526 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[Feed The Birds, from Mary Poppins]


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03.
(Once Upon A Time)


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[ Dota 2 esport ]


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[Great British Bake Off, series 3]


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06. http://i.imgur.com/82bEEum.png
[The Private Report on My Lesbian Experience with Loneliness; linked for nudity/implied porn, illustrated]


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[We Happy Few]


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[Stranger Things]














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Re: Dubcon?-- Probably trigger warnings here for rape

(Anonymous) 2016-08-29 11:59 pm (UTC)(link)
The way I've always understood noncon and dubcon is that noncon is without consent, and dubcon is when consent is, well, dubious.

A situation where someone is unwilling to admit they want to fuck the other one because they're embarrassed or think being gay is wrong, for example, is dubious. If the character is pushed into it while resisting, it's still rape because consent wasn't given to the rapist, but it wasn't that the willingness was missing, the consent was held back due to other reasons. Dub-con is when consent and willingness are somehow at odds with each other or unclear.

Manipulating and breaking the victim into consenting when they never wanted to consent in the first place is straight up non-con.

Re: Dubcon?-- Probably trigger warnings here for rape

(Anonymous) 2016-08-30 12:04 am (UTC)(link)
SA

So for example, a person who doesn't want to admit they're gay and totally want to fuck the other guy, being pressured into gay sex, is dub-con. The willingness is there but the consent isn't.

On the other hand, a person who doesn't want to fuck the other person consenting to having sex with them for some other reason - sex or die, aliens made them do it, et cetera - while still not really wanting to have sex with them, is also dub-con because the consent is there but the willingness isn't.

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Re: Dubcon?-- Probably trigger warnings here for rape

[personal profile] philstar22 2016-08-30 12:10 am (UTC)(link)
Thanks, that's helpful. This is definately of the perpetrator knows it is not consensual and is messing with the victim variety. It was clearly non-con in my mind, I just didn't know if I should include the dub-con label because someone else might see it that way. But clearly it isn't dub-con, so I won't use that.

Re: Dubcon?-- Probably trigger warnings here for rape

(Anonymous) 2016-08-30 12:13 am (UTC)(link)
Assuming the victim isn't attracted to the perpetrator and doesn't want to have sex with him before the incident or you know, something like that, sounds definitely like non-con to me. It'd be dub-con if he secretly were in love with him and wanted stuff to happen but felt it was "wrong" or something, but it doesn't sound like that! I'm pretty sure everyone will get its noncon.
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Re: Dubcon?-- Probably trigger warnings here for rape

[personal profile] philstar22 2016-08-30 01:39 am (UTC)(link)
He's only attracted to him in the sense of the perpetrator is very, very attractive and happens to have taken on a form that looks kind of like the person the victim does love. But he knows who the perpetrator is and very much doesn't want it, he's just at his breaking point.