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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2016-08-30 06:50 pm

[ SECRET POST #3527 ]


⌈ Secret Post #3527 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2016-08-30 11:03 pm (UTC)(link)
Never heard of this phrase until now and I like it. Now to find some way to work it into a conversation.

(Anonymous) 2016-08-30 11:07 pm (UTC)(link)
"It's a Game of Thrones/A Song of Ice and Fire reference. They are a popular TV show based on books by George RR Martin.

In the show/books, winter can last years, but so can summer. The latest summer has lasted something like 15 years. Times have been good.

As such, a sweet summer child is somebody who is naive, untested, or young. They have never had to face the harsh realities of the world, such as a winter lasting years, terrible wars, etc."

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(Anonymous) 2016-08-30 11:04 pm (UTC)(link)
...I'm pretty sure it's meant to be condescending.

(Anonymous) 2016-08-30 11:24 pm (UTC)(link)
Agreed.
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[personal profile] morieris 2016-08-30 11:04 pm (UTC)(link)
Is your tiny side note not the point of the phrase?

(Anonymous) 2016-08-30 11:10 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, it's another annoying condescending phrase, and I hate that it seems to be working its way into the general lexicon.
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[personal profile] diet_poison 2016-08-30 11:25 pm (UTC)(link)
I find condescending phrases annoying in general. This is another variant of "oh honey" or "sweetie". :/
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[personal profile] analise 2016-08-31 07:24 am (UTC)(link)
As someone from the South I feel compelled to say, "well, bless your heart" :)

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(Anonymous) 2016-08-30 11:28 pm (UTC)(link)
That is exactly what it means. I use it when someone, usually younger or less experienced than me, says something painfully naive.

If you don't appreciate that, then I understand. But I sure wont stop using a phrase that so perfectly encapsulates my feelings.
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[personal profile] kallanda_lee 2016-08-30 11:34 pm (UTC)(link)
I think it conveys what it wishes to convey perfectly, though.

(Anonymous) 2016-08-30 11:44 pm (UTC)(link)
"it sounds condescending" oh you sweet summer child, it's meant to be condescending

(Anonymous) 2016-08-31 01:12 am (UTC)(link)
OP

It's also painfully nerdy and stupid. It's the fandom equivalent of some anime weeaboo calling you a baka and thinking they've gotten one over on you. You're using a phrase from some dude's fantasy series as a comeback online, and it reads very much to me like if someone started quoting Mad Max and felt superiour about it. "Oh no, someone had a different fandom experience than I did!? Oh my sweet summer child..."

It doesn't help that the idiots who do use it have rendered the original phrase all but meaningless because they use it for literally everything.

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(Anonymous) 2016-08-31 01:04 am (UTC)(link)
OP

Considering I see it everywhere from "oh I don't think X was that bad" to "huh, in my parts of fandom there really isn't a problem with Y, so I haven't really seen that much" and some weary old fart carrying the "fandom of yore" torch has to swoop in and tell them that they're a a "sweet summer child" for saying something against the grain or providing an alternate view on any particular subject?

Nah, I didn't miss the point. I just think anyone that uses it in conversation sounds like a ripe asshole, my sweet summer child.

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[personal profile] crossy_woad 2016-08-31 12:09 am (UTC)(link)
That's literally what it is. Condescending and "setting people right." This isn't some weird perception on your part, OP.

(Anonymous) 2016-08-31 01:15 am (UTC)(link)
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It's particularly distasteful, and all the sweet summer children in this secret thread hasn't exactly elevated my opinion of the people that do use the phrase. I find it hilarious the sort of faux-intellectual and world-weariness that comes with it too. Oh, you've been around fandom long enough to notice a trend that someone else hasn't happened to latch onto? Truly you are the weariest of the weary and the wisest of the wise.

Now tell me your opinions on yaoi, oh knowledgeable fandom sage.

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(Anonymous) 2016-08-31 01:30 am (UTC)(link)
I just hate it because it's a GoT reference, and I hate GoT.

(Anonymous) 2016-08-31 02:20 am (UTC)(link)
+1
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[personal profile] greenvelvetcake 2016-08-31 01:44 am (UTC)(link)
Yes...? That's 100% the point of saying "oh my sweet summer child," to imply how naive the other person is. It's like you're complaining about southerners saying "bless your heart" with a slight note of condescension.

(Anonymous) 2016-08-31 02:38 am (UTC)(link)
I'm kinda shocked to find this phrase didn't originate as a Southernism. It sounds like it ought to be! This is what I get for not being into Game of Thrones.

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[personal profile] sadiesockmonkey 2016-08-31 03:42 am (UTC)(link)
I'm just here to ask whether or not this was the first image that came up when you Googled the phrase sweet summer child?

(Anonymous) 2016-08-31 10:44 am (UTC)(link)
"People use this phrase to mean what it means, and don't they know they sound like they're saying what they're saying?"

Seriously, if you think it's obnoxious, that's fair, but you probably should have actually looked up what it meant before you wrote this.

(Anonymous) 2016-08-31 05:34 pm (UTC)(link)
Yep.

(Anonymous) 2016-08-31 05:06 pm (UTC)(link)
Condescending is the whole point.