[ SECRET POST #462 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #462 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Notes:

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Also a few people keep posting secrets to the wrong post -- make sure you check before you comment or something dfhjkf

Early because I'm dead tired afk recharging

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Comments

[mikkeneko.livejournal.com]

Maybe if Clamp had written the series, but FMA is about as shounen as it gets.

I really can't imagine anyone could say this with a straight face who's seen actual shounen shows.

As a general genre classification, yes, it's more shounen than shoujo. But that hardly means that it is TEH ULTIMATE EPITOME OF MASCULINE and therefore is never allowed to have any themes or imagery that don't appeal to The Male Audience.

Arakawa, in the first place, basically created the Roy Mustang character to appeal to the female audience, and the company that produced the anime played up a lot of the relationships and put in a lot of Roy/Ed imagery with the deliberate goal in mind of attracting female viewers. They didn't create this image (http://tbn0.google.com/images?q=tbn:7P7GyNulX3Ov4M:http://www.notashrimp.com/wallpaper_files/edRoyWhiteDay.jpg) or the many others like it by accident, you know.

For that matter, as the above commenter said, shounen series often have tons of subtext because they emphasize male-male relationships (friendship, rivalry, devotion) above male-female romance, creating an environment where it's a lot easier to see relationship chemistry, both sexual and non, between two male characters.

[(Anonymous)]

I'd really like to know how, exactly, FMA qualifies as shoujo. Seriously. Girls watch shounen (you have heard about the Gundam Wing fandom, right?), and women write shounen, and this does not stop it from being a genre that is targetet at male readers. And you know, I tend to think that the slashy pictures of Roy and Ed (the one where Roy has glasses and a hand on Ed's shoulder is much, much worse than the one in which they have Valentines gifts for the girls) counted about as much as the two tons of official artwork of the two of them with Winry and Hawkeye that would make anybody not familiar with the series believe it was a kooky romantic comedy.

Subtext is part of the text: it is intentional. That some readers read more into it than Rowling intended does not make Harry/Hermione any more canon, and the fact that shounen series usually has a lot of significant development between male characters? Does not make it romantic subtext.

[(Anonymous)]

I'd really like to know why the intended audience for a show matters in fandom and fanfic, which flaunts the canon anyway by being fan-made.

[(Anonymous)]

I was talking about shipping based on canon arguments, not fanfic, but if you really need it spelled out: because of the difference between a Fai/Kurogane fan claiming that the author meant for the tension to be interpret as sexual/romantic, and a Naruto/Sasuke fan doing the same. Clamp are infamous for the inclusion of m/m pairings and heavy homoerotic subtext - Kishimoto has made a nod to that fanbase, and then satirized it mildly.