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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2016-09-10 03:26 pm

[ SECRET POST #3538 ]


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(Anonymous) 2016-09-10 08:09 pm (UTC)(link)
I think the criticism arises from certain areas of fandom (not to generalize, of course) where the idea of what it means to be "trans" tends to ...veer off from the diagnostic criteria for GID.

This doesn't mean people in fandom aren't trans or that fandom interaction isn't a legitimate mode of self realization. It does mean there are some people being told, "Oh yeah, you're definitely trans because you like things that are traditionally coded as a gendered passtime." This could not be further from the truth.

It's a hard situation to fix as well, because in all likelihood the people espousing those ideas might not even be using that word in the same sense as a doctor would. They might just mean, "Yes, you too can have an identity under that nonbinary spectrum if you think it describes you." whereas the people who identify as trans because of reasons that involve physical dysphoria don't so much appreciate the idea that you can be trans without experiencing that.

It'll probably calm down when more knowledge gets out, the intricacies of gender identity become more of an open topic, and the language evolves to properly differentiate between people using the words trans, trans*, transgender, AF/MAB... etc.

(Anonymous) 2016-09-10 08:19 pm (UTC)(link)
I agree with this. I find it nuts that we try to break down gender barriers, but this group still decides that certain behavior is "masculine" or "feminine". It frankly feels as though people understanding their own identities are too ~complex~ for one gender and that they transcend it somehow, despite us all trying to point out that gender doesn't matter and has nothing to do with your personality, your hobbies, your fashion sense, etc.

(Anonymous) 2016-09-10 08:38 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't personally like the idea much either, being a physically dysphoric trans person who has always enjoyed a range of activities and interests that are variously gendered. Even before I was fully aware of what my problems meant, I always sort of pushed the idea that liking something "girly" or "for boys" didn't mean fuck all. It also means that I patently refuse to stop enjoying things that are coded to the opposite of my current presentation just because of how that reflects on my gender status.

...Although I do think that a certain amount of gender presentation is just necessarily social performance and I can't really sympathize with someone who gets mad about misgendering while still fully presenting as the opposite of what they're asking to be recognized as. You can't really expect an average Jane in the street to understand you identify a transmasculine if you're wearing nail polish and a full face of makeup 3 months into your transition, man.

I mean, do what you want but like... tumblr has mislead you.

(Anonymous) 2016-09-11 05:42 am (UTC)(link)
"All of us" meaning who? Because no, we don't live in a world in which a male person can wear dresses and make-up in public, be referred to with female pronouns and called with a female name, just because these are her personality, hobbies and fashion sense that have nothing to do with her physical sex.

Regardless of whether that person has physical dysphoria or not, she will be perceived as transgender and will be a victim of transphobia.

(Anonymous) 2016-09-11 03:47 am (UTC)(link)
well said