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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2016-09-10 03:26 pm

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What hot-button debate do you take most personally?

(Anonymous) 2016-09-10 08:39 pm (UTC)(link)
We see a lot of political/social debates here on f!s, and sometimes things get heated. What I want to know is *not* what you think, per se, about any particular issue, but which one really hits closest to home for you.

Re: What hot-button debate do you take most personally?

(Anonymous) 2016-09-10 08:44 pm (UTC)(link)
Seriously? Why would anyone answer this question? It'd be like cutting yourself on purpose in front of sharks.
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Re: What hot-button debate do you take most personally?

[personal profile] kaijinscendre 2016-09-10 08:45 pm (UTC)(link)
Vaccinating your kids. Unless they have a medical reason why they can't, vaccinate your fucking kids. I think parents who don't vaccinate should be penalized somehow. I am not sure what the best penalties would be, but there should be some.

I have a niece with autism so I can't stand people who use that as an excuse not to vaccinate kids. Not only is it false information, it implies that autism is worse than a kid dead from various easily preventable diseases.
Edited 2016-09-10 20:47 (UTC)
cakemage: (Valkria)

Re: What hot-button debate do you take most personally?

[personal profile] cakemage 2016-09-11 12:32 am (UTC)(link)
Yes, all of this!

Re: What hot-button debate do you take most personally?

(Anonymous) 2016-09-11 02:08 am (UTC)(link)
OMG your icon is from Princess Maker 2, isn't it?
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Re: What hot-button debate do you take most personally?

[personal profile] cakemage 2016-09-11 02:57 am (UTC)(link)
Yep! I was always so proud when my kid took over Hell.

Re: What hot-button debate do you take most personally?

(Anonymous) 2016-09-10 08:46 pm (UTC)(link)
Welfare.

Re: What hot-button debate do you take most personally?

(Anonymous) 2016-09-10 08:50 pm (UTC)(link)
A well funded social safety net actually increases entrepreneurship and benefits the economy because it decreases the pressure to take low pay jobs and gives people the freedom to risk because failure will not result in total penury. The level of fraud is always peanuts compared to that. Adding overly stringent compliance terms to it nullifies all the social and economic advantages of that safety net.

Re: What hot-button debate do you take most personally?

(Anonymous) 2016-09-11 01:23 am (UTC)(link)
I'm on Welfare and it fucking sucks.

Re: What hot-button debate do you take most personally?

(Anonymous) 2016-09-10 08:48 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm not sure how to answer with the most important issues to me in any detail without also giving my opinion... like, I'm gay, so LGBT issues are important to me. Environmental issues are very important to me, as the parents are biologists.
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Re: What hot-button debate do you take most personally?

[personal profile] sparrow_lately 2016-09-10 08:56 pm (UTC)(link)
LGBT, vaccination.

Re: What hot-button debate do you take most personally?

(Anonymous) 2016-09-10 08:59 pm (UTC)(link)
LGBT stuff is definitely the thing I take most personally, though I get pretty invested in the abortion debate as well.
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Re: What hot-button debate do you take most personally?

[personal profile] sparrow_lately 2016-09-10 09:03 pm (UTC)(link)
Abortion, police violence, and prison/justice system reform are hugely important to me but I can't super point to personal connections? This question is interesting.

Re: What hot-button debate do you take most personally?

[personal profile] herpymcderp 2016-09-10 09:10 pm (UTC)(link)
Ahh. A novel way to gather information on how to personally troll people.

I give this effort an 8/10

Re: What hot-button debate do you take most personally?

(Anonymous) 2016-09-10 09:29 pm (UTC)(link)
oh ye of little faith

Re: What hot-button debate do you take most personally?

[personal profile] herpymcderp 2016-09-10 09:31 pm (UTC)(link)
I have complete faith in the trolls of this community. They have more dedication than any trolls I have ever seen.

Re: What hot-button debate do you take most personally?

(Anonymous) 2016-09-10 09:33 pm (UTC)(link)
you know that bc you are one

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Re: What hot-button debate do you take most personally?

[personal profile] thelesbianfuturist 2016-09-10 10:18 pm (UTC)(link)
Womens reproductive rights and the USA trying to erode them.

Re: What hot-button debate do you take most personally?

(Anonymous) 2016-09-11 02:59 am (UTC)(link)
This. The judgment cast on anyone ovulating is just... ugh.
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Re: What hot-button debate do you take most personally?

[personal profile] kallanda_lee 2016-09-10 11:31 pm (UTC)(link)
Honestly, thing about mental illness and people being shitting about it. Doubly so people who deny mentally ill people agency, as that's a particularly sore spot.
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Re: What hot-button debate do you take most personally?

[personal profile] dancingmouse 2016-09-11 04:55 am (UTC)(link)
Vaccination. You're born with Autism, you don't "catch" it. It's not a freaking virus. Vaccinate your kids. For everyone's sake.

LGBT and Women's rights. Gay people getting married is not hurting you at all, nor is women wanting to get an abortion. Their lives, their bodies, their rules, not yours.


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Re: What hot-button debate do you take most personally?

[personal profile] philstar22 2016-09-11 05:25 am (UTC)(link)
I'm not sure if personal is the right word? I mean, immigration is probably the most important social issue to me, as well as all the related social issues of the reasons why so many of them leave their original country. It isn't personal in the sense of it affects me because I'm not an immigrant, though it does affect clients I work with. But it does offend me in a way greater than most other issues because I am involved with the issue in my (hopefully soon) work and previous internships. I know how bad our laws our, I hear the testimonies of what immigrants go through (stuff that can make me cry at times, and I almost never cry), and then I hear the way it is talked about on tv. And it makes me mad.

Gender issues are obviously personal for me. But also the cross between gender and rase issues feels personal as a woman who thinks it should be about women getting to choose for themselves. The way western culture judges Muslim women for covering up while at the same time treating female bodies as objects for public consumption offends me greatly. Sometimes I like to show skin, sometimes I want to be completely covered up, and either way it is my choice. Criticize the forcing of women of course (though don't forget to criticize the expectations Western culture puts on women in how they look and dress, or you are extremely hypocritical). But don't judge an individual woman's choices when she isn't judging yours. And listen to the voices of the women in that culture. Let them speak for themselves. And don't pretend like we've got it all figured out and are totally great on the gender front.

Religion is weird for me because it is personal in so many different ways. I grew up in a super conservative, fundamentalist area. I grew out of that when I grew up. So that stuff offends me. But I'm still somewhat religious, and I also get offended by people who insult people who do have faith. There is such a thing as a liberal, progressive faith. Faith is personal. It is okay not to have any religion, but it is also okay to have some. I don't go around insulting atheists. I just hate it when all religious people are painted as being the same.

LGTBQ stuff also, definitely. especially because I'm bi and my parents are super homophobic. They don't know I"m bi, and ever time they say something offensive, it feels personal, but I can't tell them that.
Edited 2016-09-11 05:26 (UTC)
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Re: What hot-button debate do you take most personally?

[identity profile] mimi-sardinia.livejournal.com 2016-09-11 07:28 am (UTC)(link)
What you say about religion is the thing that came to mind on this. I consider myself moderately liberal, even though I have some very fundamental beliefs.

Even those beliefs, I find it irritating to discuss because I view them as a very personal thing that, in practical day-to-day living has little effect on people I interact with.

Re: What hot-button debate do you take most personally?

(Anonymous) 2016-09-11 04:04 pm (UTC)(link)
Anything about what it's 'ok' to ship as a fan.

It pretty much always leaps straight into armchair psychology and making wild speculation and judgements about people. "I feel sorry for people who ship friends because it means they must not have any friends of their own or they'd know what platonic friendship feels like and they wouldn't dismiss it." and then the buzzwords start getting thrown around and suddenly Saruman/Gandalf is something only racist abuse-apologist pedophiles ship and it's generally very distressing to me.

Re: What hot-button debate do you take most personally?

(Anonymous) 2016-09-12 01:42 am (UTC)(link)

The muslim veil. The way some people praise muslim women for wearing it as if it were some kind of accomplishment instead of internalized misoginy and acceptance of patriarchal rules of women belonging to some male and therefore, not showing their body to the other males she doesn´t belong to. Their argument is always "that´s their faith, that´s what they want!!1" Yeah, well, they were brainwashed since kids and probably will be shunned by their families or honor killed by some entitled male of their families or communities if they decided not to wear it anymore.

I´m not saying it should be forbidden in Western countries like they did in some parts of France, that´s not gonna help, it´s just opening a Pandora box. But please, don´t pretend veiled woman are so liberal and empowered and free. Let´s call it by its name: brainwashing.