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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2016-09-12 05:56 pm

[ SECRET POST #3540 ]


⌈ Secret Post #3540 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[Tom Hanks & Aaron Eckhart in Sully]


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[Star Trek: The Next Generation]


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[The Hobbit (film)]


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[Keeping Up Appearances]


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[Endeavour]


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[Legend, Lily/Darkness]


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[Anne of Green Gables remake]


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[Macross Delta]













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Characters who are too good at being awful

(Anonymous) 2016-09-13 12:24 am (UTC)(link)
I am reading a play for one of my literature classes, and one of the characters is just awful. He is a git who is self centered and pretentious and awful to everyone else in the play and I am definitely meant to hate him. And I do, but the problem is, I hate him so much its significantly dampening my enjoyment of the play, cause its just so frustrating to have to read what he says - I don't even want to see his comeuppance, I just want him gone.

Anyone else have experiences with media where there is a character that is meant to be disliked, but is actually so dislikable it makes story as a whole less enjoyable?
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Re: Characters who are too good at being awful

[personal profile] feotakahari 2016-09-13 01:01 am (UTC)(link)
A lot of people made this complaint about Miko from The Order of the Stick, a self-righteous holy warrior so obsessed with the letter of the law that she failed to consider whether she was really helping anyone. Quoth the author:

"Miko Miyazaki may be the single most controversial character I have yet created for TOotS. Within days of her introduction, fans were beginning to chose sides as being pro-Miko, anti-Miko, anti-anti-Miko, or what have you. I can't take credit for all of this; the paladin is perhaps the most controversial character class in the game. People feel strongly about paladins -- they either love them or hate them, with few occupying the middle ground. Personally, while there is always a place for the shining knight in fantasy roleplaying, I believe that the class as written actually encourages a type of dysfunction within roleplaying groups. I think of it as the Police Syndrome, wherein one player feels entitled by the rules to actively police the other members of his or her group. [...] In many ways, Miko Miyazaki is the incarnation of those hard feelings. [...] Miko is also the result of me asking myself: "Can a Lawful Good character be the villain -- and still be lawful good?" [...] There was a general outcry about how Miko wasn't the only possible way to portray a paladin that lasted some time, to which I say: Well, obviously. [...] Miko is not the one and only way to play a paladin; if anything, she's one of the WORST ways to play a paladin. [...] Miko is a person who has been raised in a strict military society believing that she was given the power of the gods to punish evil, with very little of her extensive training devoted to social interaction or manners. [...] The very concept that other people don't need to do as they're told is foreign to her, which is how her Lawfulness most strongly represents itself."

Re: Characters who are too good at being awful

(Anonymous) 2016-09-13 01:18 am (UTC)(link)
Douchecanoe Mac-what's his face in Deepsix. The writer slash political pundit character. Arrrrgh.
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Re: Characters who are too good at being awful

[personal profile] shortysc22 2016-09-13 01:40 am (UTC)(link)
Are we supposed to like any of the characters in Girls? Because 5 seasons in, I don't care for any of them. If any of my friends treated me the way that the girls in the show treated each other, we would no longer be friends, end of story.

They are terrible people and are cruel about everything. I get that it's TV and you want to keep the storylines fairly close, but everyone has slept with and cheated with everyone else.

Re: Characters who are too good at being awful

(Anonymous) 2016-09-13 02:41 am (UTC)(link)
Most characters that can be described by the trope "Alpha Bitch."
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Re: Characters who are too good at being awful

[personal profile] skeletal_history 2016-09-13 02:50 am (UTC)(link)
Not quite answering your question but: A lot of actors who play these kinds of roles say that they work under the philosophy that no one is the villain of their own story. Even if the play or script is badly written, you can imagine how this character could justify behaving like that to themselves and what they think they get out of being that way, and then using that to find their humanity.

What's the play you're reading?

Re: Characters who are too good at being awful

(Anonymous) 2016-09-13 03:24 am (UTC)(link)
Miss Lulu Bett by Zona Gale. it's for a class on women's drama

And idk if anyone knows it but the character Dwight is just the worst. He is selfish and condescending and obviously sexist and it's just so frustrating to read bits with him in them :/
It's also just not my favorite of the plays we read so far but yeah
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Re: Characters who are too good at being awful

[personal profile] feotakahari 2016-09-13 10:07 am (UTC)(link)
I just looked this up. Is it just me, or does this sound a lot like A Doll's House?

Re: Characters who are too good at being awful

(Anonymous) 2016-09-13 03:35 am (UTC)(link)
I couldn't watch the Robin Hood TV series because I hated the Sheriff too much. He was just too unbelievably horrible.