[ SECRET POST #463 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #463 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 19 pages, 459 secrets from Secret Submission Post #066.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 1 2 3 4 - not!secrets ], [ 1 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 1 2 3 - repeat ], [ 1 - personal attack ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

Comments

55

[hezul.livejournal.com]

Sometimes the internet really gives me the impression that you're not allowed to just sorta kinda like Reborn. You either have to love it like it's your own personal jesus, or you have to despise it with the fire of a thousand suns.

I've found some of the bashing kind of tiresome, admittedly -- I've heard on more than a few occasions that "omg it's so retarded/lame/stupid," "how the fuck do you like that," and I've definitely seen more than enough of the stereotype that everyone only likes it for pretty boys and slashy subtext.

BUT!

I don't think it's at all accurate to suggest, as you have, that an entire movement of hate for a particular series is because the haters are all jealous of the series being more popular than their own. I can certainly imagine that there are a few people out there who feel that way, but painting everyone with that brush kind of reinforces that stereotype of all Reborn fans as obsessed annoying fanbrats who think the series can do no wrong and etc etc. Which breeds more hate, in the circle of wank. I wish we could all just accept that it's not everyone's thing, and that liking it/disliking it does not make anyone stupid. (I also want a pony.)

(Honestly, I think that's what annoys me about Reborn hate -- that a lot of people seem to suggest, when they say they don't like it, that the fandom are a bunch of idiots who can't recognize the flaws in it. Which is untrue! I know it's far from perfect. But I love it despite all that, and I don't think I'm alone in this.)

Re: 55

[dualshine.livejournal.com]

This is about the most eloquent response I've seen here, I think. Basically: AGREED. On all counts. To say anything else would be to delve into the realm of tl;dr, so I'll just leave with: thank you.

Re: 55

[hezul.livejournal.com]

♥!

I think this, like so much on the internet, is really just one of those things that goes both ways. The fans feel slighted because people imply they're stupid for liking it, the non-fans are annoyed because people won't shut up about it, everyone just fuels each other's ~*~righteous indignation~*~ and it goes in circles.

Re: 55

[dualshine.livejournal.com]

Mmm...*thinks* The thing I don't really understand, though, is why so many people imply one is stupid for liking/disliking it. It sort of reminds me of ship wars, except...about fandom. I personally love Reborn, but I'd never think that EVERYONE who dislikes it is dumb. And I can admit that the manga is flawed, but...idk. I'm not sure why it suddenly becomes EVERYONE ELSE'S PROBLEM if someone likes or dislikes it, or why people take so much offense either way. But hey, fandom's never made much sense, sooooo. *shrugs* So long as the majority can agree to disagree, I'm cool.

I'M SORRY FOR THE RAMBLY REPLY. This is just one of those things that makes me sort of confused/irritated/o.O-ish.

Re: 55

[hezul.livejournal.com]

omg i kno rite. It's just different taste, so why do people make it into anything more than that? I know I get all fuzzy inside when I convince someone to read it who thought it was stupid, and they end up liking it, but I don't expect them to like it, and I don't think less of them if they don't. I can see where the way the story is set up could be a huge turn-off to someone who doesn't want to go through seven volumes to get to the plot, anyway, so I'm not about to call them on that. :S

IT'S ALL COOL. XD

Re: 55

[antiva.livejournal.com]

Yeeees. Right now there have been a number of secrets that pretty much stated 'I think Reborn sucks, and think anyone who likes it is a yaoi weeaboo fangirl'. It figured there would be an anti-secret like this coming on.

I just enjoy reading it, am not crazy about it at all. F_S is just not about 'live and let live', I suppose. xD;

Re: 55

[hezul.livejournal.com]

F_S probably isn't the place to make a "let's all get along!" statement and expect anything to come of it, but I can dream. XD;

Re: 55

[xinexpressiblex.livejournal.com]

WHUT!? YOU MEAN PEOPLE DON'T READ REBORN JUST FOR THE PRETTY BOYS AND SLASH!?!?!?!

...Lols jk. This coming from the girl with a near OTP love for TsunaKyoko XD;

Your comment made me feel fuzzy with happy~ I wish there were more people of the 'I really mean it when I say can't we all just get along?' variety in fandom.

Re: 55

[hezul.livejournal.com]

WELL, I WON'T DENY THAT THE PRETTY BOYS HELP A BIT. :Db

My OTP love bounced around for a while and finally settled on...Mukuro/Chrome. Het? In my shounen? It's more likely than you think!

At the end of the day, we're all just a bunch of nerds talking about comics and TV shows on the interwebs. It seems like kind of a waste of a place to channel so much RAAAAAAAAAAGE into. XD