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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2016-09-15 06:32 pm

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(Anonymous) 2016-09-15 11:01 pm (UTC)(link)
10 years ago mental illness weren't the new hotness and you didn't have tons of kids self diagnosing themselves with at least 5 mental illness. I don't give a shit about people identifying as trees or whatever bullshit they come up with, but this mental illness fad bothers the fuck out of me.

(Anonymous) 2016-09-15 11:15 pm (UTC)(link)
You did too fucking have that 10 years ago.

(Anonymous) 2016-09-15 11:42 pm (UTC)(link)
yep. i remember it.

(Anonymous) 2016-09-16 12:03 am (UTC)(link)
Stop trying to pretend that it was as bad as it is nowadays. Having some weirdos is a thing, the current situation is much much worse.

(Anonymous) 2016-09-15 11:22 pm (UTC)(link)
re: "the new hotness"

are u fifty

(Anonymous) 2016-09-15 11:29 pm (UTC)(link)
nayrt, but that doesn't sound like the slang of a 50-year-old to me.

(Anonymous) 2016-09-16 01:05 pm (UTC)(link)
Nayrt

I'll be fifty in a few months. Some women my age do say that but only the ones who still are rewatching Buffy episodes regularly. That's the source of that slang phrase.

(Anonymous) 2016-09-15 11:46 pm (UTC)(link)
This. There are people who legit have mental illnesses. And then there's assholes on Tumblr who WISH they had mental illnesses and pretend that they do. Which is fucking disgusting, and sets things back far more than it moves them forward. Appropriating mental illnesses is Tumblr's favorite pastime.

(Anonymous) 2016-09-16 12:30 am (UTC)(link)
Of course, it's definitely not more disgusting to sit in judgment of who is "legit" mentally ill and who is not. Nope. If it's supposed to be a strictly medical opinion, why do you get to have one about someone else's issues? Are you an internet doctor?

(Anonymous) 2016-09-16 02:21 am (UTC)(link)
I do care because it's harmful. Let's use the self diagnosed depression and sadness example.

Self diagnosed "depressed" people in places like tumblr often treat sadness as though it was depression. Everybody's been sad. But sadness =/= depression. That's a common mistake, but self diagnosed "depressed" people tell those with depression to "stop feeling sorry for themselves" or "you have no reason to be depressed, there are people worse off than you". They're treating depression as though it was sadness because they're only personally familiar with the latter.

And the actual people with depression are left to try and explain that depression DOES NOT go away so easily or even worse, self diagnosed "depressed" people will make them feel like it's their fault. "You're only depressed because you aren't trying hard enough".

(Anonymous) 2016-09-16 12:52 am (UTC)(link)
So...what? Everyone who talks about mental illness on tumblr is making it up? How about you give people the benefit of the doubt. Yeah maybe a few people are faking it, but dont you think it's also possible that people finally feel safe talking about it? I don't really discuss my mental illness anywhere else either because there's always armchair psychologists who want to judge whether I'm crazy enough or not.

(Anonymous) 2016-09-16 05:46 am (UTC)(link)
DA
I'll give them the benefit of the doubt when they don't loudly proclaim that all their numerous mental illnesses are self-diagnosed.

(Anonymous) 2016-09-16 06:33 am (UTC)(link)
To be fair I've noticed it can be hard to get an official diagnosis for some mental illnesses. I have PTSD according to the guidelines for it and my own experience of regular panic attacks, dissociation, and flashbacks, but my doctors seem loathe to say anything other than me having Major Depressive Disorder. I have another friend who suffered from PTSD for almost a decade before they finally diagnosed him with it.

And I'm not really sure how Tumblr is like...worse than the usual? There are always SOME people like that. Like a decade ago kids going on how "psycho" they were and "hearing voices".

I still feel safer with the self diagnosed kids, even if some of them are full of shit, than the fuckin "mental health police" judging people who don't have the money or insurance or ability to get into therapy and get officially diagnosed. If you actually want to help mentally ill people, give them the benefit of the doubt unless they are actively using mental illness as a scapegoat to hurt others.

(Anonymous) 2016-09-16 02:39 pm (UTC)(link)
No. No I will not give self-diagnosed little shits the benefit of the doubt because they read through some websites and got some result on an online "test" and now are convinced they know more than a professional.

Because guess what? A lot of the people self-diagnosing are actively or passively hurting real mentally ill people.

(Anonymous) 2016-09-16 03:31 pm (UTC)(link)
I get that you're talking about a select group of people here but I'm just curious...

If people aren't getting information from websites and such, how are they supposed to even realize they might need help?

One of the people I've talked to only stared to realize they might be depressed when the read the symptoms from a book.

To get help, most need to have some understanding that something is not quite right. Why begrudge their source?

(Anonymous) 2016-09-16 06:49 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh no, I have nothing against taking information from a website or a book. Even some of the tests available online can be useful. But only if people actually use those resources as a reason to get a real diagnose. Like, I know an online test that's for finding out if you have certain symptoms that correspond with the symptons of depression and if you have a high score, it basically says "you might have depression, you should go see a specialist". But people who self diagnose don't do this, they take the test and decide "oh hey that's it, I got myself some depressions now yay!" and don't even think about trying to get a real diagnose. And those are the people I can't stand.

(Anonymous) 2016-09-16 01:59 am (UTC)(link)
There are PSAs that go around telling people to stop romanticizing mental illness but I feel like they don't get as much traction as they should.

(Anonymous) 2016-09-15 11:49 pm (UTC)(link)
so you didn't run into the kids who told you they hear voices and tried to convince you to talk to their multiple personalities? And they would go "lol i'm such a psycho".

(Anonymous) 2016-09-16 01:29 am (UTC)(link)
Yep. The problem with Tumblr is that it's full of self-diagnosed dipshits and otherkin; this probably wouldn't be too bad alone but they often want to make people with genuine problems believe specialists want to harm them and that they should trust their ilness instead. This is fucking bullshit, and yet a lot of folks with actual mental disorders (usually the 'tism and such, but also bipolar and schizphrenia) on that site buy into this. Nobody should "trust" their mental ilness, it's a parasite gnawing on me and taking my joy away, not a ~~quirky friend making me unique~~.

(Anonymous) 2016-09-16 02:05 am (UTC)(link)
The thing I feel is toxic about the Internet as a whole and Tumblr in particular is that it lets crazy people validate each other's crazycakes instead of being told that what they're doing is not culturally or socially appropriate and/or is harming themselves or others.

They want to argue that mental illness is legitimately just as much an imbalance in the body as any other chronic condition that requires medical maintenance and then at the same time bash the psych profession for daring to diagnose them and prescribe them the medications they need.
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[personal profile] diet_poison 2016-09-16 01:40 pm (UTC)(link)
Ugh as someone with chronic depression this just...makes me so sad. So, so sad. Especially since I struggled for a long time with finding professional help, and I didn't really get better until I'd gotten it (medication and, after a long time of searching, a good therapist - and I almost gave up on that). People need encouragement to seek help, not validation of the demons that are lying to them and sucking away their life.

:( :( :(

(Anonymous) 2016-09-16 03:36 pm (UTC)(link)
This. It really clarifies the actual danger. Self-diagnosis can be problematic, but it's the attitudes, or romanticizing of mental illnesses that does the damage.

[identity profile] brandiweed.livejournal.com 2016-09-16 01:34 am (UTC)(link)
(remembers self-diagnosed Asperger's syndrome people, the whole FUCK YOU I'M A DRAGON business, Jennifer Diane Reitz)

Aren't you cute.

(Anonymous) 2016-09-16 01:47 am (UTC)(link)
Some memetic weirdos vs half of the people on fandom. Yeah, totally the same.