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⌈ Secret Post #3546 ⌋

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Comments

Re: Question Bout Privilege

[(Anonymous)]

But any "simple" example is ridiculous because it completely ignores the complexity of an actual grownup relationship. If men "don't know how to do laundry" (or any other household chore), that's a failure of parenting, not society in general. My fifteen-year-old son knows how to do do laundry (and other household chores) because he's been taught, because I want him to be able function by himself when he leaves the house--and not be dependent on a woman.

Your entire premise is deeply flawed.

Re: Question Bout Privilege

[(Anonymous)]

Parenting is a part of society. If there were a significant gender difference, on a society-wide statistical basis, in which kids get taught how to do laundry and which kids don't, that would be a society thing. Saying it's parenting doesn't mean it's not also part of society.

And, again, just to reiterate, very simplistic example here.

Re: Question Bout Privilege

[(Anonymous)]

It's not necessarily "not knowing" how to do it :/

Personal anecdote:
When I was 12, my mum moved out. And from what I remember, I (afab) ended up effectively in charge of doing the laundry for the remaining family (dad and younger brother).
I'm fairly sure my brother knew how to do laundry at that point (he most definitely knows now), my dad probably did as well, and yet I was stuck with the bulk of it because I was "a girl".

My dad's still outsourcing his laundry to women as far as I know. (He mentioned doing just that in a phone call a few weeks ago, except with different words.) And he doesn't see anything wrong with that. :/
I'm glad my brother didn't pick up that attitude, although I suspect if things had gone differently he might have.

Re: Question Bout Privilege

[(Anonymous)]

And apparently the women he's outsourcing his laundry to are fine with it. Otherwise they'd kick him and his dirty clothes to the curb, no?

Re: Question Bout Privilege

[(Anonymous)]

AYRT
Except they have (probably not specifically because of the laundry thing, but the underlying attitude may have been a factor).
My mum left him. The lady he was dating after my mum apparently kicked him out (I don't know what happened there, specifically). Now he's dating someone else.

And I know 12-year-old me was pretty resentful about being dumped with the laundry, and unable to do anything about it because I was 12.

Re: Question Bout Privilege

[(Anonymous)]

Well, then, I'd ask "how's that working for him," but I think we all know the answer to that question.

And now that you're a grownup, you never have to do anyone else's laundry ever again unless they're paying you. See how that works? I mean, my kid does the laundry, the dishes, the vacuuming, and cleans up after the animals, which is all part of him "contributing to the household." He probably resents it too. Too bad.

Re: Question Bout Privilege

[(Anonymous)]

I don't really agree with OP's original male privilege thought experiment either, but why is your perfectly equitable ~post-feminist~ homelife supposed to be such a great rebuttal?
Either tell me you don't think sexism exists or show me data proving that it's over.

Re: Question Bout Privilege

[(Anonymous)]

Because this whole notion of "privilege" as relates to household chores is such bullshit. Part of being a grownup is figuring out how to relate to the people you live with on an equitable level, and division of labor is part of that. If you don't like doing laundry (or whatever), then grow a spine and say so, and maybe your SO will say "Well, I don't particularly like mowing the lawn, so let's swap." Try having an adult conversation about it instead of whining about "privilege."

OP's "example" is far too simplistic and fails to take into consideration the give and take and weighing of responsibilities in a functioning household. Does sexism exist? Of course, though to a much, much smaller degree than my mom dealt with, and I think we're getting better all the time, to the point where 3rd wave feminism is flailing around trying to find something to be mad about and has latched onto things that are frankly ridiculous.

And maybe if we want "women's work" to stop being devalued, we should put the notion of "just a housewife" to bed for good and all, because that phrase is frankly horrible.