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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2016-09-20 06:24 pm

[ SECRET POST #3548 ]


⌈ Secret Post #3548 ⌋

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[Dark Souls 2]


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[Ouran High School Host Club]


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[Darren Criss]


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[Great British Bake Off, Sue Perkins, Mel Giedroyc]


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[The 100]


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[Death in Paradise]


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(Anonymous) 2016-09-21 02:08 am (UTC)(link)
I don't blame the production company at all. The BBC can find £4.5million per episode for their failed reboot of Top Gear, but not £25million for the huge ratings hit GBBO with all it's merchandise spin offs and future potential?

Seriously, fuck the BBC.

(Anonymous) 2016-09-21 02:37 am (UTC)(link)
The BBC took the not unreasonable decision that a marquee in a field, no matter how well stocked, would not cost anything like £25million to produce. See here is the thing, the BBC is legally not allowed to consider how much money a show will bring in if it is not produced by the BBC itself but it is legally required not to spend much more than it costs to produce on buying shows from external production agencies. It is also legally required to only produce a small percentage of shows in-house and put the majority of its shows out to tender for external production companies to create.

Now if that sounds to you like a recipe for exactly this situation; where the BBC spends the time and money building up a brand only for the production company to drastically up the costs knowing it will still bring in a small fortune if it does but knowing the BBC cannot possibly match that bid as it legally cannot consider profit generation as part of the show's value and thus ensuring it will go to a commercial channel who are allowed to consider profit value where they will get the profit from the increased bid and the profit from the overseas residuals, well then; you are a Conservative Party Minister and you just worked out how to kill the BBC. Death by a thousand cuts, the BBC has to spend, spend, spend, but as soon as a show shows promise of going into the black then the production company can up and go taking all the sunk costs with it.

Top Gear by contrast is a very expensive show to make (with the insurance costs alone being eyewateringly large), even post Clarkson it is not a failure, and it was brought back in-house production wise (in fact they bought the brand back off Clarkson who had bought it off them in the first place during the first hiatus) which means they can take profitability into account.

(Anonymous) 2016-09-21 02:57 am (UTC)(link)
TBH, I look forward to the death of the BBC. The amount of money that's wasted is shocking and no one in management has the slightest idea of how to manage successful shows. It's like working for children.

(Anonymous) 2016-09-21 03:03 am (UTC)(link)
Did you not read what was written? They are managing their money as wisely as they can. Their hands are tied by the UK Government. The reason they cannot spend more on keeping shows like GBBO is because the rules they have to work to says they can't. They have to maximize their revenue on the shows they are allowed to do so on, and that means higher spending on salaries and production costs on them.

(Anonymous) 2016-09-21 03:06 am (UTC)(link)
AYRT

Dude, I work for them (or at least until my notice period is done!)

(Anonymous) 2016-09-21 03:21 am (UTC)(link)
Everyone on the internet claims to have exact personal experience of the very thing they are complaining about. Or pull the other one, it has bells on it. The amount of producers, or doctors, or nascar engineers that I've met on the internet. Unreal, I tell you. Just last night I spoke to someone who claimed to be high up in both Hillary and Trump's presidential campaign teams, for example. Given the level of their spelling, Trump at least was possible I suppose.

(Anonymous) 2016-09-21 03:24 am (UTC)(link)
Nothing says impartiality like a disgruntled ex-employee.

(Anonymous) 2016-09-21 03:05 am (UTC)(link)
The average ratings for Top Gear were 3.89 million, they've failed to sell it to the overseas market they desperately want and they're having to figure out another reboot as they're lost their hosts. GBBO averages around 10million.

I'm not saying the production company unreasonably put the money up but the BBC spent a year in negotiations. During that time they made several unpopular changes to their services, such as the closure of BBC Food (not BBC Good Food which is a commercial arm and not something with the GBBO production company are really able to utilise) and the closing of the iPlayer loophole (a closure which has actually cost more money than will bring in, amusingly).

The BBC needs to return to what they used to do best, original programming. The Sunday night family drama was always a highlight of the week but now it's 'light entertainment'. Not that there's anything wrong with 'light entertainment' but other channels do that so much better, the BBC doesn't need to be a like-for-like competitor, it should compete by offering something different.

(Anonymous) 2016-09-21 03:18 am (UTC)(link)
The closure of BBC Food was, again, mandated by the Government as it was seen to infringe on commercial interests.

Top Gear, despite the completely anticipated drop in viewership following the unfortunately necessary dropping of Clarkson is still selling and selling merchandise and since Chris Evans was only on a one-year contract for it it seems much more likely he was always intended to be let go and was there just to be the hate magnet for the strident Clarksonians.

The BBC still does weekend evening dramas, but this year has been noticeably sport heavy or hadn't you noticed? The BBC has a charter obligation to show these sporting events, so it has to show them instead of more dramas.

Also the weekend evening slot has drawn less ratings over the last few years across all networks not just the BBC.

The idea the BBC is a like-for-like competitor is a Daily mail talking point and needs no further in dismissal. If it produced a wildly successful drama that competed with ITV in the weekend evenings then that would be complained about as well. In fact since ITV is currently showing a big budget adaptation about Queen Victoria in that very slot, then the BBC is doing exactly the right thing by not showing a drama.

The closing of the alleged loophole in iplayer is also something that was mandated by the government.

You complain the BBC should do dramas instead of light entertainment like GBBO. You complain it should not compete for ratings, but then complain about the ratings of Top Gear versus GBBO, it seems you really only have an ax to grind regarding the BBC and are regurgitating Daily Mail soundbites here.