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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2016-09-23 07:15 pm

[ SECRET POST #3551 ]


⌈ Secret Post #3551 ⌋

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08. [WARNING for mentions/discussion of abuse, rape, pedophilia, etc]

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(Anonymous) 2016-09-23 11:58 pm (UTC)(link)
Slightly OT, but I'm fascinated by other people's response to this trope. The Redemption Arc + Beauty and the Beast narrative is so entrenched in so many people's minds, that I've seen it projected onto all kinds of stories where it's obviously not there at all - for instance, Zuko/Katara, Kylo/Rey, Marian/Guy in the 2006 Robin Hood.

I'm not sure why exactly, but it's kind of amazing to see viewers graft this narrative onto stories where it's simply not - and of course, lose their shit when that becomes undeniable.

(Anonymous) 2016-09-24 01:49 am (UTC)(link)
I love Beauty and the Beast stories and will put up with a lot of bullshit for them, but I don't get Kylo/Rey because I don't see the trope there, not even a darker variant like Phantom of the Opera where there is abuse involved. I don't know enough about Last Airbender or that Robin Hood variant to say much, except in the one case Zuko was redeemed without romantic love having much (anything?) to do with it and in the other Guy killed Marian, so I wouldn't cringe as hard at Zutara shippers as at Guy/Marian shippers.

(Anonymous) 2016-09-24 07:07 am (UTC)(link)
+1 to Guy/Marian

It's been a long time since I've seen it and it's a ridiculous show in the first place, but the mental acrobatics some people go through to turn it into a legit romantic relationship just to lay all the blame on Marian for being a worthless bitch is mindboggling. Iirc, he tried to force her to marry him, burned her house down, and killed her in the end. Being nice now and then doesn't change any of that.

People will excuse and justify anything, if they find the guilty party attractive.

(Anonymous) 2016-09-24 10:30 pm (UTC)(link)
Guy/Marian shippers were definitely terrifying (though their gobsmacked silence after he murdered her was just a little funny; at least before they started insisting that Marian deserved it), but in a way the Zuko/Katara shippers got irritating, as Zuko had a FANTASTIC redemption arc - but because it wasn't for and because of Katara, they didn't seem to enjoy it as much.