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TW: Eating disorder

How can you tell between when you have anorexia and when it's just a diet? I keep thinking maybe I've developed a bit of a problem but I feel like I'm losing weight and I'm already clinically overweight so it doesn't really matter.

Well, part of the definition of anorexia is being underweight, so technically, if you're overweight you can't be anorexic, but you could still have another eating disorder. I would say talk to your doctor if you're worried.

No, that's actually not true. Because the underweight in anorexia means for your body. So if someone is not eating enough for their body, they can still be anorexic even if their BMI is higher than average. And the important part of the definition of anorexia is obsession with weight and calorie counting and things like that.

There are people who might be considered fat or overweight who are also anorexic.

That doesn't even make any sense. There has to be a standardized criteria that applies to everyone because "underweight for your body" could mean pretty much anything someone wanted it to.

Nooooo.

No you are incorrect. The clinical diagnosis of anorexia involves having a BMI that is <18.5. Having an eating disorder with anorexic character is a whole other different thing, and it is what you are thinking of.

You don't have to be underweight to have an eating disorder. You do have to be underweight to be anorexic.

you should probably elaborate on what the "problem" aspect is.

For approximately a month, I've eaten 400 calories a day. I take a mixture of caffeine and ephedrine to suppress my appetite. I work out and cover the calorie counter thingy to make sure I don't get tempted to eat the calories because I've seen the amount.

When I put it together, it all sounds insane. But you can't argue with the results, and I'm still overweight.

DA

That sounds pretty unhealthy. Weight is only part of health, and if you are only eating 400 calories your body is probably not getting all the nutrients it needs. Maybe you haven't crossed the line into anorexia, but this sounds like something you should talk with someone about.

it sounds like disordered eating to me, I don't know enough about specific diagnoses whether it would definitely be categorized as anorexia, but definitely disordered.

(Also I hate to be this person cause I doubt it makes you feel better but extreme calorie cutting often isn't the best way to lose weight, because it can mess with your metabolism.)

You can argue with results, actually. Especially if those results are achieved in a way that's ultimately damaging to your health in the long run. Otherwise you could say that locking an obese in a prison cell and only giving them water and bread is a great plan because it works, eventually.

Your diet sounds far too severe, and by strictly limiting your caloric intake, you might actually be hurting your body's ability to regulate your metabolism, which will make it HARDER for you to lose weight. Are you on this diet with the advice of your doctor or nutritionist? I suspect not. I suspect that deep down, you know this isn't healthy but you're too in love with the weight loss to stop yourself. So yes, that's an eating disorder.

I can and will argue with those results: they're damaging and unsustainable. The second you attempt to go back to eating above your bmr you will gain the weight back, so the only thing you have done in the meantime is deprive yourself of essential nutrients.

That behaviour does qualify as disordered eating. It isn't a course of action you should pursue if you would like to remain alive and healthy.

Problem is, you can argue with the results because they're not sustainable long-term. That's why people who focus on restriction rather than moderation tend to put the weight back on, and usually then some.

Look up what has happened to contestants on "The Biggest Loser". Google gives a bunch of good links, but here's just one article:

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/05/02/health/biggest-loser-weight-loss.html?_r=0

Basically, your body doesn't know when it will ever get food again, so it goes into starvation mode. Thus once you start eating a normal amount of calories, it will pack as many away as possible for another "famine".

Trust me, I know. Been there, done that, have finally made sustainable lifetime changes that are resulting in slow but steady weight loss with the help of my doctor, therapist, and a nutritionist.

Not an expert, but an eating disorder is more about the mindset than the results, if you know what I mean. Even if you're technically overweight, if you're only eating 400 calories a day and obsessing over your meals and weight--and if you're worried enough to ask the question here--that sounds more like an eating disorder than a diet.

It's not anorexia but it has the potential to go there. Plus that kind of calorie restriction is the kind of thing you should have your/a doctor oversee, especially if you're exercising a lot, too. Add ephedrines and you could fuck yourself up without ever technically getting to underweight.

For me, the main component of anorexia was that I simply couldn't STOP thinking obsessively about 1) eating/not eating and 2) gaining/losing weight.

My days were FILLED with thoughts of not letting myself eat, as well as thoughts of what little it would be "okay" for me to eat. I planned and replanned it. And it quickly got to a point where "eating" and "food" were synonymous with "bad" in my mind.

I would say that if you feel as though your thoughts related to eating and weight are becoming obsessive (repetitive and stressful to you), then that's a bad sign. Also, ask yourself whether eating is something you ALWAYS feel bad about (I mean, after the fact), or whether you're comfortable with eating in moderation and you only feel bad when you know you've exceeded the amount of food your body requires to function at its best.

When I was anorexic, there was this weird duality where I never really enjoyed eating because I felt guilty and fat and weak while I was eating, but at the same time, I craved food desperately. I wanted food more than I'd ever wanted food before, but as soon as I gave in and ate I felt like shit.

Bottom line, I think it's really hard not to think about dieting as this thing you have to keep up, day after day, ad nauseum. And that can lead a person down a bad road, because if you succeed in losing weight, you just end up feeling like "Now I have to work even harder to keep up this trend, and I can't afford to fail now that I've made real progress."

It's hard as hell to get to the point where you can make each "healthy" food choice on its own merit, without thinking about The Long Game (aka, losing weight and keeping it off), but I think any time a person can get themselves in the habit of just making each individual food choice on its own merit, that's a really fantastic habit to get into. Because then, when you choose to order a large sundae with extra sauce (just as a random example), it's just one choice, and it doesn't negate the times you chose a small soft-serve cone instead, or the times you chose apple wedges, or the times you will choose those other things in the future. And when you do choose the apple wedges, it's also just one choice, and it doesn't mean you can't choose a large sundae next time if that's what you want.

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