[ SECRET POST #3552 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #3552 ⌋

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

Either 1) those parts of tumblr are overreacting, 2) you've misunderstood what they're saying, or 3) you're jumping to conclusions here. It's fine that you identify with Patty! It's great! You can relate to her, and celebrate that, without being "problematic." What IS a problem is when white people who relate to non-white characters ignore the importance of those characters to non-white viewers, and speak over people trying to celebrate that aspect of the character.

tl;dr: no character is "only for" one specific group of people, but lots of characters have special importance to certain groups and it's good to acknowledge that if you're not in the group

[morieris]

Okay, this worded what I was trying to stutter out better.

When people go "Wow, Patty is great I DON'T SEE COLOR SHE'S JUST GREAT :)))" like fauxgressives do - that ignores the fact that there are plenty of black people out there going "Hey, she's nerdy and she looks like me and that's great!"

[(Anonymous)]

There is nothing wrong with not seeing color, an increasing number of people and some people have always not cared about color, the problem is forgetting that the majority of people still do. It is not enough to drop your own prejudices, you have to be careful you don't accidentally wander into the line of fire of someone elses prejudice with your writing.

[(Anonymous)]

There's nothing wrong ignoring part of a person's identity because that's easier than personally acknowledging but not hating someone for their differences.


maybe liberalism has gone too far.

[(Anonymous)]

Are you saying the black people want to be defined by their skin color?

[(Anonymous)]

No, you know this, and knowing this place, this conversation will be a waste of time so i'm done.

[(Anonymous)]

What you mean is you just accidentally branded yourself a racist who said black people's identity can be boiled down to the color of their skin and we should try to see the actual person and you are going to flounce because you cannot find a way to back down.

[(Anonymous)]

and probably whine to Case to freeze the thread too.

[diet_poison]

I think that went way over your head tbh

[(Anonymous)]

What do you mean "ignore" it? What do we need to do in order to be able to say we relate to the characters without ignoring it? Do we have to say "I'm white and I know there are lots of ways I can't relate to her as much as a black person can" when we talk about how we do relate? Do we need to discuss those ways? That all sounds like it would get tiring. Much like how you shouldn't have to talk about "why you know something you like is problematic (because reason1 reason2 reason3) but you like it anyway" whenever you talk about liking it.

[cbrachyrhynchos]

This.

The tendency of marketing to marginalize works with Black people or Black authorship onto its own unique shelf as just for Black audiences is part of the problem.