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⌈ Secret Post #3556 ⌋

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[Lord of the Rings trilogy]

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[pride and prejudice; unnamed others]

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[Endeavour]

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[Tim Curry / Movies: IT, Rocky Horror Picture Show, Clue, Legend]

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[Loud House]

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[MST3K]

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I was pleasantly surprised at just HOW much I really enjoyed this book, I couldn't wait to finish it. I thought it was better than a lot of similar YA books ( I didn't care for Truthwitch, which had a similar set up in the beginning)

I loved the characters. They were all fairly well-rounded and I love the relationships here between Katsa and Raffin. I love how much Katsa and Po were desperately trying to take care of Bitterblue.

I don't know how I'd feel about the sequels because I really want more of Katsa and Po because they were great together. I loved the pacing of this book and I'm really glad we voted this one in. I agree with you on the prose a bit but it didn't keep me from reading it. I guess one way of describing this book would be that it's a good beach read. I was entertained by it, but it's not a masterpiece. Overall a good book club choice.

Agreed with your general assessments lol, thought I have not read Truthwitch.

I'm actually kind of happy that Po and Katsa's relationship got left where it did though especially given that it wasn't necessarily going to last. I hope the sequel has lots of Katsa traveling around and visiting Bitterblue in Monday while on her travels to do awesome things :)

As far as YA books, I'm also glad that the love triangle was pushed away completely, yes Giddon wanted Katsa but she didn't see him that way at all and was super firm with her decision, which is not typical. Most of hte time there are two boys, the girl can't decide between them and then the story suffers. Here, not at all!

Yeah, love triangles are dumb. I mean...I've just never cared for them.

I honestly wish Katsa had been more direct in her rejection of Giddon - I hated how the advice given to her was "make it not about him" i.e. stroke his ego so he doesn't feel bad. It wasn't even necessary from a personal protection standpoint, not with Katsa. Of course, the Council could have suffered...there is that.

It's just a nasty reflection of RL attitudes. Girls are expected to let guys down easy and make sure they know we don't think there's anything wrong with them, even when our reason for rejecting them is "actually, you're a big asshole".

I'm just glad he was written out a bit and that he wasn't a part of the end, that the end of the book was focused on Bitterblue, Po and Katsa and their survival and how to take down King Leck.

I thought the book started a bit confusing/slow, like I wasn't sure what direction it was going in but I liked where it went.

And yes, it's definitely a reflection of "well shouldn't you be lucky that you have two guys fighting for you? How ever can you choose?" Well when one is an asshole, it's easy! Plus she doesn't even want Po in the beginning, he wears her down though by being her equal.

"well shouldn't you be lucky that you have two guys fighting for you? How ever can you choose?"

Yeah I'm not fond of those situations! >___> And they didn't fight over her, really; Giddon was jealous all the time but Po took the high road of treating Giddon with courtesy and not making Katsa a reason to fight.

I'm reminded of the bit at the beginning where he messed up her face, and then apologized to Giddon about it. I do think that was shitty of Po - well, of both of them really. Giddon being in love with her doesn't entitle him to being able to look at her pretty face all the time. Ugh, he's so possessive and gross. It was disrespectful of Po to play along with that imo.

I really don't think Po "wore her down". Po never made a move towards her until he saw with his Grace that she would return his feelings. Also she was sexually attracted to him pretty early on but didn't recognize it. They just had a strong friendship that turned into a romance over time.

I liked that Katsa stuck to herself in the book and wasn't coerced in to being with Po, she was with him because he was her equal and didn't treat her differently because of her Grace. I did think the Graces were a little unusual and not super explained well but there was a lot happening in this story.

At first, I liked Giddon but as the story went on, I couldn't stand him.

Yeah, it's good that their Graces put them on pretty much equal footing.

Giddon was meh for me until he started to be fleshed out, which wasn't much because his whole character existed to shape Katsa's character, but I just liked him less and less as he went on. He gave me such a Nice Guy vibe. I mean, I'm not mad that he exists; he was well-written for what he was. Just very easy to dislike as a person xD

Yeah, he definitely gave me that Nice Guy vibe which is why I'm glad Katsa wrote him off pretty quickly that she didn't want to be with him.

Again, this book as fairly enjoyable as someone who likes YA and reads TONS of it (probably 50 books so far this year)

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