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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2016-10-02 03:28 pm

[ SECRET POST #3560 ]


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(Anonymous) 2016-10-02 09:09 pm (UTC)(link)
No comments on his hiring practices, but... doesn't the book take place predominantly in Wales during one of the World Wars? Was there a lot of race variance in Wales in that time period?

(Anonymous) 2016-10-02 09:48 pm (UTC)(link)
It does take place in a remote corner of Wales... and involves children from all around the world, collected there because they're special. But why does it matter? This is a fantasy movie about children with magical powers like pyrokinesis and invisibility. That's not exactly historically accurate, since it's, well, fantasy. But your question implies that the film should be historically accurate only when it comes to race?

(Anonymous) 2016-10-02 09:56 pm (UTC)(link)
I didn't realize the kids came from everywhere, I was under the impression they had come from Great Britain in general.

Okay, but people say that things like Avatar, despite being fantasy is based on asian culture so the cast should have been asian. So... if you have a fantasy that is based and takes place in early 1900 Wales, why is everyone all, "OH MY GOD WHY NO VARIANCE IN RACES???"

[personal profile] sachiko_san 2016-10-02 11:47 pm (UTC)(link)
Because they're stupid and think it's 2016 America in every fictional work.

(Anonymous) 2016-10-03 12:01 am (UTC)(link)
No it's more because people like you are idiotic and act like people of colour didn't exist at all in ancient societies that were predominantly white.

(Anonymous) 2016-10-03 02:53 am (UTC)(link)
Yep, this.

(Anonymous) 2016-10-03 12:48 am (UTC)(link)
+1

(Anonymous) 2016-10-03 02:54 am (UTC)(link)
... do you think that POCs were only invented this year?

(Anonymous) 2016-10-03 02:52 am (UTC)(link)
Even if they "only" came from Great Britain, Great Britain is not and was not 100% white even in the 1940s. They also had exactly zero people who could fly or become invisible at will, but again, we seem very focused on only being historically accurate when it comes to race. A bit funny, that.

(Anonymous) 2016-10-03 04:46 am (UTC)(link)
I've never liked this. By that argument, you could have the Eiffel Tower in the background.

(Anonymous) 2016-10-03 04:53 pm (UTC)(link)
http://medievalpoc.tumblr.com/

(Anonymous) 2016-10-03 06:21 pm (UTC)(link)
Fuck off with that idiot, get some proper sources (I don't even disagree with the point here, but seriously, that blog is just plain terrible).

(Anonymous) 2016-10-02 10:58 pm (UTC)(link)
Cardiff and Swansea both had large black and chinese populations due to the shipping trade, they were major ports in those days instead of armpits of the nation that depend on EU funding as they are now.

(Anonymous) 2016-10-02 11:03 pm (UTC)(link)
Huh, I didn't know that (and stand corrected). Though I don't know how much the film focuses on people outside the kids. The book didn't even really, minus some brief moments in the tiny town on the island.

(Anonymous) 2016-10-02 11:18 pm (UTC)(link)
Ooh, thanks! I didn't know that (because I don't know much about Wales...), but it makes sense.

(Anonymous) 2016-10-02 11:22 pm (UTC)(link)
NAYRT
see, I would love if stories incorporated characters from backgrounds like that, in a natural way. my own family was all around the globe and mainly asia in the 19th and early 20th century, and I have a lot of chinese mixed relatives. still when you see a token nonwhite character, you recognize it. instead, it would add to the story if there were characters from another race for whom it makes sense to be there.
In adaptions, that doesn't work very well, though.
So I kinda have to agree with what I think he meant to say, if he had thought twice: obvious tokenism leaves a stale taste. If you can identify "the black" "the asian" and "the queer" character, it's really annoying and detrimentary to the story. there should be more prominently black/asian dominated stories instead, or stories that are written in a way for it to make sense, like set in a place or situation with a very diverse, maybe even not white-dominated background.

(Anonymous) 2016-10-03 01:26 am (UTC)(link)
lol at sachiko-san ignoring this comment