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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2016-10-05 07:51 pm

[ SECRET POST #3563 ]


⌈ Secret Post #3563 ⌋

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Re: UK Government just went full Nazi

(Anonymous) 2016-10-06 12:33 am (UTC)(link)
Does the UK have just one government? I mean, I would have presumed England, Scotland, Wales would have independent governments?

Re: UK Government just went full Nazi

(Anonymous) 2016-10-06 12:35 am (UTC)(link)
The UK has a parliament that represents everyone, and then Scotland, Wales, and (i believe) Northern Ireland have devolved parliaments with some control over local issues. But broad stuff about taxation and immigration still mostly depends on the UK parliament.

Re: UK Government just went full Nazi

(Anonymous) 2016-10-06 12:43 am (UTC)(link)
The UK parliament really only represents England, it ignores Scottish and Welsh voters entirely. It is the perfect example of fake enfrachisement, there may be Scottish and Welsh MPs, but due to the number of English MPs vs Scottish and Welsh MPs it doesn't matter what the latter vote for. Whatever England votes for is what will happen. The last time another constituent nation's votes counted was in the mid 1990s when the Northern Irish Unionist MPs agreed to prop up the failed Tory government and override the Welsh and Scottish MP's votes.

It is fucked up beyond belief.

Re: UK Government just went full Nazi

(Anonymous) 2016-10-06 12:46 am (UTC)(link)
With respect, isn't that at least partly a result of how many people live in England compared to Scotland Wales, and Northern Ireland?

I think the most equitable solution would be full devolution, but there's at least some democratic legitimacy to the present situation.

Re: UK Government just went full Nazi

(Anonymous) 2016-10-06 12:51 am (UTC)(link)
A full federal partnership is something that has been campaigned for for decades, but the English parliament at Westminster refuses to give up power to allow it.

Re: UK Government just went full Nazi

(Anonymous) 2016-10-06 12:53 am (UTC)(link)
Again, with respect - and let me reiterate that I am in favor of this option - but Scotland did have a referendum, and they didn't vote that way.

Re: UK Government just went full Nazi

(Anonymous) 2016-10-06 03:23 am (UTC)(link)
For economy reasons, mostly. In the face of Brexit, that vote might have a very different outcome.

Re: UK Government just went full Nazi

(Anonymous) 2016-10-06 04:17 am (UTC)(link)
I think it probably would have.

At the same time, I think the outcome of that vote has to make you at least a little bit reticent to just straight-up talk about how Scotland thirsts for independence and the only thing that's blocking it is English bigotry

Re: UK Government just went full Nazi

(Anonymous) 2016-10-06 06:24 am (UTC)(link)
Or you know, when Scottish MPs forced through Student Loans for England while keeping theirs free. Have you never heard of the West Lothian question?