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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2016-10-05 07:51 pm

[ SECRET POST #3563 ]


⌈ Secret Post #3563 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2016-10-06 03:41 am (UTC)(link)
LOOK It's *not* real gay sex, it's fiction. Fiction has to have a point to every scene. YOur characters should not be having sex unless the sex has a point, so everything in your sex scene has to provide either character and plot development, or get the reader off. It's not like real life where stuff just kind of happens according to what people feel like and there might be really complicated and probably slightly boring reasons why("i'm tired" "I got a cramp last time" "I had the chilli"). Not everyone gets off to the same things the same way, when they're reading or looking at porn with the intent to become aroused and maybe achieve orgasm. People.have.preferences in their porn, a strong preference for who is doing what to whom is no different than a preference for body types and hair colors and themes- as in they may have difficulty getting off if their preferences are not featured. For someone who was planning to try to become aroused and/or get off, this can definitely be something which will make the reader disappointed and annoyed. So, we let each other know, as both warning and advertisement, because that's fricking polite to your readers not to trick them into reading something they don't want to read. And it's OKAY TO NOT WANT TO READ IT. I am so sick of people scolding each other for having those preferences, as if, if you REALLY loved the characters you would read any dynamic and if you don't, it means you have bad taste and you're a heterosexist who doesn't understand gay sex.

Because there are no gay men with preferences, Oh no, never, and there are no straight women who prefer something different in their man/woman dynamic than they typically see in media and who love that in slash, they're the one who gets to pick who does what according to their own needs. Like maybe they like to imagine topping in a way they could never pull off in real life (hetero femdom is not really the same, if you're fantasizing about being a big, masculine gay top who can truly manhandle is partner, or dream about walking into a room and not having every attempt to top start with a stupid fight about it) , so the character they most identify with is actually the one they like to see topping and it actively turns them off to find themselves reading (without warning) a fic where "they" are suddenly bottoming. Many people do not appreciate being surprised by things they don't want, while they're in the middle of getting off (in fact, people trying to get off tend to prefer predictable scenarios TMI sometimes it makes things easier when you know what's no pun intended coming)

I'm reading porn to get off (or slash romance in order to have a sort of "emotional orgasm") and I have preferences for how I want to do that. I tend to care less about those things if the sex scene is part of a fully plotted out mainstream published novel with original characters. Because then, becoming aroused is a nice surprise, it was never part of a deliberate plan and I have no pre arranged fantasy in my head for how I want the dynamic to work out(also I tend to skip the sex scenes in mainstream lit since they're so often not...good..so I really am reading for plot).

WHen it comes to fanfiction, people only want to read very specific things, *the thing they wanted to read*. The fantasy they *specifically set out to indulge*. No curveballs.

And most people only have a certain amount of time in their day to read fanfiction, so they need to know before they start, that they won't be wasting their time reading something they're not going to get what they wanted out of. So they need to know exactly what it is they're clicking on in order to winnnow down the several to dozens to hundreds of fics available. The more information you give readers ahead of time, the easier it is for them to decide whether or not your work is worth their time. And that, folks...

Is WHY WE FUCKING TAG THINGS.




(Anonymous) 2016-10-06 04:03 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, but it's still just a courtesy and convenience that writers can choose to use or not. It's not a requirement. It's not at all the same as a trigger warning (which is also a courtesy, not a requirement - Choose Not to Warn is perfectly valid).

Honestly, if a reader is going to get all huffy and entitled over something like that, I don't really need their attention on my fic. It's not a great loss to me.